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Smith/Gritt - Romanys, travellers, hawkers.

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Mandy

Mandy Report 8 Jan 2022 15:16

Well the mystery to my grandmother Violet Smith deepens. On the 1921 she shows up as Violet Gritt 23, hawker, born 1897 Somerset.
She is with husband Frank and children from his first marriage.
But she didn’t marry Frank until 1923, aged 23.
???

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jan 2022 15:43

Copying Gwyn's post from last year:

"It may be that Violet wasn't too sure about her birthday, ( the 1939 register doesn't give a birth day, just a month and year.)
Alternatively, her age could have been 'adjusted' a bit at marriage to lessen the huge gap in her age and Frank's."

She was clearly using Frank's surname before marriage - not unusual, especially on census forms, for the appearance of respectability.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jan 2022 15:44

So they fibbed……by no means unusual

And she probably didn’t really know how old she was.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jan 2022 16:16

Her birthplace is stated as Millbrook, Bursledon, Botley - three separate places all in the Southampton area.

Botley and Bursledon were both in the South Stoneham reg district, and Millbrook in Southampton RD.

There's this Violet Smith with a father named William . Her father did die before 1923, but she doesn't seem to have had a brother David, and her family's not living in any of those three places - so really only posting for elimination.

[ EDIT: - No definitely not her. This Violet was unmarried in 1939 ]

SMITH, VIOLET mmn ST. GERMIER
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 10


[DELETED 1901 and 1911, as this is definitely not the right Violet.]


Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%)
Smith William Edward T Southampton 2c 31
St Germier Josephine E Southampton 2c 31


Deaths Mar 1922 (>99%)
Smith William E T 53 Southampton 2c 3


Violet Smith
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Violet Smith
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 27 Dec 1901
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 17
Residence Place: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Occupation: Caretaker
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 144
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: ECUA
Borough: Southampton
Registration district: 99-3
Household Members Age
William G Dixon 40
Josephine E Smith 72
Violet Smith 38
Percival Smith 39

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Jan 2022 13:19

the burial reg for corhampton show no smiths
from knightsroots