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Jean

Jean Report 6 May 2021 20:04

Not my Mary Wright unfortunately ,

Jean

Jean Report 6 May 2021 19:34

Thank you AgylleGran,

not my John on the Naturalization records then .
I'll check on the marriage on Scotlandspeople to see if it's my Mary Wright ,
not holding out much hope though mary's parents, siblings and most of the McCluskeys were married and died in the Calton / Bridgeton area of Glasgow not really near Anderston .

thank you for looking though

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 May 2021 18:16

Death ???:

MCMENAMIN [ also listed as WRIGHT ]
MARY
80
1952
644/9 206
Kelvingrove

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 May 2021 18:03

This is probably the John who married in Anderston, and his family, in the 1911 census.
His wife Mary was born c1874:

MCMENAMIN
MARY
1911
F
4
644/11 16/ 1
Anderston
Lanark


MCMENAMIN
JOHN
1911
M
2
644/11 16/ 1
Anderston
Lanark


MCMENAMIN
JAMES
1911
M
7
644/11 16/ 1
Anderston
Lanark


MCMENAMIN
ANTHONY
1911
M
1
644/11 16/ 1
Anderston
Lanark


MCMENAMIN
JOHN
1911
M
38
644/11 16/ 1
Anderston
Lanark


MCMENAMIN
MARY
1911
F
37
644/11 16/ 1
Anderston
Lanark

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 May 2021 17:55

From that record, for our info:

John Joseph McCabe was born in Kilnaleck, Ireland on 12 June 1880, and his wife was Margaret, age 31, born Glasgow.
They arrived in New York on 15 Feb 1910, on board the ship "Califronia", having left Greenock on 5 Feb 1910.

John McMenamin was a boiler maker.

This seems to be the man in question:

John Mcmenamin
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: John Mcmenamin [John Mc Menamin]
Age: 54
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Ireland <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 28, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
House Number: 2355 North Woodstock Street <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1893 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Rose Mcmenamin
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Boiler Maker <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Industry: Navy Yard
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members Age Relationship
John Mcmenamin 54 Head
Rose Mcmenamin 45 Wife - Ireland

??
Rose McArdle
in the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S., Marriage Index, 1885-1951
Name: Rose McArdle
Gender: Female
Spouse: John McMenamin
Spouse Gender: Male
Marriage Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Marriage Year: 1912
Marriage License Number: 275983
Digital GSU Number: 4141890


So - presumably not the man who married in Anderston.

Jean

Jean Report 6 May 2021 16:16

I wonder if I could ask another favour please.

I've found on Familysearch the Petition for Naturalization for John joseph McCabe in 1915 one of the witnesses was a John McMenamin residing at 2355, Nth Woodstock st,
Pennsylvania , but I can't find him on a passenger list .


I'm curious to find out who he is only because I have found on Scotlandspeople a
marriage for a John McMenamin to a Mary Wright in 1903 in Anderston and I'm wondering if she is any relation to my Wright family .
I don't want to use my credits looking at the marriage if its not her ,

thank you

Jean

Jean Report 6 May 2021 15:53

Thank you Argylegran ,

I've checked the other births on Scotlandspeople unfortunately not her , maybe a daughter born to one of Mary Ann 's relatives because all the Mary's related to Henry Wright are accounted for,,

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 May 2021 18:05

Re Mary P Wright 1906-

(don't know which thread it's best suited to, so posting here since she's been mentioned)

You have this record - but in order to post the details for the helpers;

Mary Wright
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Mary Wright
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Marital status: Single
Age: 16
Birth Date: abt 1906
Birth Place: Scotland
Other Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland
Last Known Residence: Glasgow, Scotland
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Arrival Date: 13 Aug 1922
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Final Destination: Clarenceville, New York
Years in US: Permanently
Citizenship Intention: No
Hair Colour: Light Brown
Eye Colour: Gray
Complexion: Fresh
Person in Old Country: Mrs Cath Quinn [ sister of Mary Ann, 86 Oxford St, Glasgow ]
Person in Old Country Residence: Glasgow, S.s.
Person in US: Mrs Annie Livingstone
Person in US Relationship: Cousin [ of Mary Ann, 9434 110th St, Clarenceville, NY ]
Ship Name: Columbia


Travelling with
her mother (relationship according to the travel record) Mary 41, widow, last residence Glasgow,
brother (relationship per the travel record) Francis 4, and sister Elizabeth 2.

The two Marys each paid their own passage, and the mother paid for the two younger children.

Mary Ann married Henry Wright in 1912 , so Mary junior may not be the daughter of Henry - or maybe not of either Mary or Henry; maybe some other relation.

There's a big age gap between young Mary and Francis, if they're siblings
- though not impossible.

MCGRATH MARY ANNE
WRIGHT HENRY
1912
644/15 78
Hutchesontown

IF young Mary was Mary Ann's daughter before marriage -
there were three Mary McGraths born in Glasgow in 1906 - one of them in Camlachie, which I seem to remember is relevant to your family.

MCGRATH MARY
F
1906
644/2 513
Camlachie


EDIT:
BUT that's not your Mary.
From the 1911 census and then marriages on SP, her parents were Peter McGrath and Mary McCourt.

The other two Mary McGraths born in 1906 in Glasgow were born in Anderston, and Govan.


Jean

Jean Report 5 May 2021 16:28

Sorry for the late replies just now got back to reading them.

Thank you Shirley, I don't think any of my ancestors went to Canada as children unless of course they were with their parents, thankfully.

Maddie ,, thank you so much for all this information most if not all I don't have so lots to be going on with .

As for Mary P Wright I have not been able to find a birth for her on Scotlandspeople or indeed on the 1911 census even just putting her christian name and d.o.b.and the area of Glasgow were her two siblings Francis and Elizabeth were born , assuming they are her siblings .

Argylegran, thank you for re-upping the threads for Elizabeth , I dont know how many years I have been searching for her and her daughter Mary and still no joy .

thanks again to all

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 May 2021 15:36

You say you have Margaret McGrath/McCabe in 1930 and 1940.

Here's 1920 to add to that:

Margaret Mccabe
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Margaret Mccabe [Margaret Mc Cabe]
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Scotland
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 28, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1910 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: John Mccabe
Father's Birthplace: Ireland [Scotland]
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland [Ireland]
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: None
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members Age Relationship
John Mccabe 38 Head
Margaret Mccabe 38 Wife

Address: 2309 North Woodstock Street

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 May 2021 00:00

Threads about Elizabeth McCluskey, whom Jean mentioned:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378218

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1382782

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1370878

An elusive woman indeed!

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2021 17:29

Name
Francis J Wright
Rank
Pfc
Birth Date
26 Jan 1918
Service Number
33086512
Service Branch
Army
Unit
AC - Hq. & Base Sv. Sq. 73d SV. Gp.
Enlistment Date
21 Sep 1942
Discharge Date
6 Nov 1945
Death Date
27 Jul 1967
Cemetery
Holy Sepulchre
Cemetery Location
Phila., Pennsylvania, USA
Household Members

Name
Francis J. Wright
Gender
Male
Race
White
Age
49
Birth Date
26 Jan 1918
Birth Place
Scotland
Death Date
27 Jul 1967
Death Place
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Father
Henry Wright
Mother
Mary Wright
Spouse
Marian Elizabeth Sutliff Wright
Certificate Number
072038-67

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2021 17:18

mary
1940
Name: Mary P Stern
Respondent: Yes
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Scotland
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania
Map of Home in 1940:
Street: Lincoln Highway
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania
Residence in 1935: East Whiteland
Citizenship: Having First Papers
Sheet Number: 6A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 107
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 6500
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors:
Household Members Age Relationship
Mary P Stern 33 Head
Zenaide Stern
12 Daughter
Emma Jean Stern
11 Daughter
Mary Ann Stern
2 Daughter
Bette Jo Stern
10/12 Daughter
Harry C Rambo
58 Brother-in-law

Name: Mary P. Wright
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1906
Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1927
Marriage Place: Malvern, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA
Spouse: Carroll F. Stern
Film Number: 000556691

Name: Mary Stern
Social Security Number: 176-20-2269
Birth Date: 1 May 1906
Issue Year: Before 1951
Issue State: Pennsylvania
Last Residence: 19355, Malvern, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA
Death Date: Apr 1982

1930
Name: Mary Stern
Birth Year: abt 1906
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age in 1930: 24
Birthplace: Scotland
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1930: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA
Map of Home:
Street Address: Cedar Hollow
Dwelling Number: 163
Family Number: 163
Age at First Marriage: 21
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Language Spoken: English
Naturalization: Un
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members Age Relationship
Caroll Stern
38 Head
Mary Stern 24 Wife
Zenaide Stern
2 Daughter
Emma G Stern
1 Daughter
Emma Stern
61 Mother

Name: Carroll F Stern
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 46
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1893
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Death Date: 4 Oct 1939
Death Place: East Whiteland, Chester, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: Joseph R Stern
Mother: Emma Lwely
Spouse: Mary Stern
Certificate Number: 88064
Search for Carroll F Stern in Pennsylvania Wills & Probates collection

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 May 2021 17:16

Jean

The BHC Canada site covers children who were emigrated to Canada from homes and workhouses in the uk

Many through dr barnardos

The children were sent as indentured servants to farms etc and many were very badly treated

Descendants now are often looking for uk family history of grt grandparent

It’s not a site for general emigration

Jean

Jean Report 4 May 2021 16:32

Margaret's sister Mary Ann wright died 11/3/1926 in Pennsylvania , I have her and her children's emigration records .

I also have Francis Wright's marriage .

Jean

Jean Report 4 May 2021 16:26

Thanks again Maddie ,
Great to have this information ,

regards
jean

Jean

Jean Report 4 May 2021 16:21

Thank you for replying Shirley .

I'll have to check out the BHC Canada site on facebook , a lot of my ancestors emigrated to Canada.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2021 16:20

in case you dont have it
Name: John Joseph McCabe
Race: White
Birth Date: 12 Jun 1880
Residence Date: 1917-1918
Street Address: 2309 N. Woodstock
Residence Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Draft Board: 25
Physical Build: Stout
Height: Medium
Hair Colour: Brown
Eye Colour: Blue
Spouse: Mrs. Margaret McCabe

Jean

Jean Report 4 May 2021 16:17

Hello Rootgatherer,
I'm fine thank you how are you ?

Still looking for ancestors as you can see .

the two adopted children Francis and Elizabeth Wright are Margaret's sister Mary Ann
Mcgrath's children who married Henry Wright , he died in 1922 so I guess Mary Ann decided to join her sister Margaret in the U.S.
Henry's mother was Elizabeth McCluskey who i am still looking for a death for I'm sure there is a very long thread on here somewhere about her and her daughter Mary.

Jean

Jean Report 4 May 2021 16:10

Thank you Maddie,
Yes that's her mothers maiden name Flood .And father Francis,
thank you so much for the information.

regards

jean