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Mary Blackham Derbyshire

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Ellen

Ellen Report 8 Jun 2021 03:59

I am trying to find the parents of Mary Blackham born abt 1802 Brailsford Derbyshire married John Harrison( s/o John Harrison & Ann Hunt) 22nd April 1822 at Duffield Derbyshire,, she died 1866 Belper Derbyshire
I have searched all the census except 1851 which I can not find

1841 They are living at Norbury Roston Derbyshire,he is 40 years old

1861 JOHN & MARY are living at Hulland, he is a 62 Agriculture Labourer also with them is their Grand Daughter SARAH HARRISON aged 8 years born at Attlow

1871 JOHN is a 71 year old Widower living in Hulland, he is a Agriculture Labourer living near him is his son GEORGE HARRISON & daughter-in-law SARAH (nee Gee)

The Will of John Harrison late of Hulland in the County of Derby Yeoman who died 21 April 1877 at Hulland was proved at Derby by Ralph Hall of Hulland ward in the said County Saddler and John Allsop of Hulland Farmer Executors
Any new information would be greatfully received

Ellen

Ellen Report 8 Jun 2021 04:41

I just found on Family Search the marriage of John Harrison Widower to Mary Blackham Widow 22/6/1822 looks like their spouses died very young? I have John born 8/3/1801 & Mary born abt 1802 changes thing completely

safc

safc Report 8 Jun 2021 05:19

Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Derbyshire
Place (Links to more information) Duffield
Church name (Links to more information) St Alkmund
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 636
Marriage date 22 Apr 1822
Groom forename John
Groom surname HARRISON
Groom parish Duffield
Groom condition widower
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname BLACKHAM
Bride parish Duffield
Bride condition widow
Witness1 Will’m (X) BLACKHAM
Witness2 James SOWTER
Notes Groom and Bride signed X
Transcribed by John Turton
File line number 1236

mary is a widower you need to find a marriage for mary to a blackham

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jun 2021 09:25

Go back to family search and look for possible first marriages for them both

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2021 09:56

??
William Blackham
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: William Blackham
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Sep 1816
Marriage Place: Duffield, Derbyshire, England

Spouse: Mary Bates

From original - Bachelor / spinster. Both of the parish
Both made their mark

Witnesses - Charles Radford and James Sowter

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2021 10:02

Witnesses to the John Harrison / Mary Blackham marriage - William Blackham and James Sowter


Blackham seems to be a popular surname around Duffield - 3 Mary's married 1820/21/22

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2021 10:16

1841 shows John and Mary aged 40 so could be aged up to 44, so born 1796/7-1801

1861 shows John b 1799 and Mary b 1795

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jun 2021 11:07

Possible first marriage for John ???

John Harrison
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: John Harrison
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1820
Marriage Place: Duffield, Derbyshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Spouse: Mary Ford <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Bachelor and spinster.

Witnesses: James (something ending in ". . son") and Ann Barker.


The witness James Sowter on the other marriages posted above isn't any kind of clue - he witnessed quite a number of marriages.

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Jun 2021 13:00

possibles for above marriage

Mary
Last name Bates
Sex Female
Baptism year 1788
Baptism date 15 May 1788
Denomination Anglican
Place Radbourne
County Derbyshire
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Mary

Mary
Last name Bates
Birth year -
Baptism year 1802
Baptism date 31 Dec 1802
Denomination Anglican
Church Holy Trinity
Place Kirk Ireton
Father's first name(s) James & Ann
Mother's first name(s) James & Ann
County Derbyshire
Country England

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Jun 2021 14:18

1851 married a farm labourer
Name: John Harrison
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hognaston, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Atlow
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Ashborne
Sub-registration District: Brailsford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 19
Piece: 2146
Folio: 373
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
John Harrison 51

maybe mary
Gib Field, Hognaston, Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England

Male
John Painter
Head
Married Male 45 1806 Farmer Hulland, Derbyshire, England
Female
Ann Painter
Wife
Married Female 36 1815 - Bolsover, Derbyshire, England
Male
Joseph Painter
Son
- Male 2 1849 - Hognaston, Derbyshire, England
Female
Sarah Painter
Daughter
- Female 0 1851 - Hognaston, Derbyshire, England
Female
Mary Harrison
Servant
Married Female 56 1795 House servant Hollington, Derbyshire, England
Female
Mary Hardy
Servant
- Female 12 1839 House servant Hognaston, Derbyshire, England
Male
John Hardy
Servant
Unmarried Male 26 1825 Ag lab Hognaston, Derbyshire, England
Male
Samuel Wayne
Servant
Unmarried Male 18 1833 Ag lab Hognaston, Derbyshire, England

george
Wardgate, Hulland Ward, Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Male
Joseph Brown
Head
Married Male 44 1807 Cordwainer and journeyman Hulland Ward, Derbyshire, England
Female
Francis Brown
Wife
Married Female 47 1804 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Male
John Brownson
Nephew
- Male 13 1838 - Hulland Ward, Derbyshire, England
Male
George Harrison
Apprentice
- Male 14 1837 Cordwainer Atlow, Derbyshire, England

Ellen

Ellen Report 9 Jun 2021 02:28

Definitely not Mary Bates as I have her married to yet another William Blackham 10/9/1816 died 13/3/1878 they had children from 1817 to 1837

Ellen

Ellen Report 9 Jun 2021 02:30

My Mary Bates had parents William Bates & Mary Harrison who married 1/6/1789 at Duffield

Ellen

Ellen Report 9 Jun 2021 03:00

I have found a William Ford married to a Susan (Susannah) with children Samuel Bapt 8/3/1797 Mary Bapt 14/3/1802 Frederick Bapt 17/8/1804 all at All Saints Derby

Ellen

Ellen Report 10 Jun 2021 10:35

I think you might be right ArgyllGran with John Harrison 1st wife being a Mary Ford because I found a burial for a Mary Harrison 30th September 1821 at Duffield, John Harrison then married a Mary? 22 April 1822 at Duffield thank you

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jun 2021 11:02

The 1821 burial isn't the right one, unfortunately.
The image on FS shows that the deceased was aged 1.

Ellen

Ellen Report 10 Jun 2021 12:52

Thanks for that back to the drawing board !!!

William's wife must have died before 22/4/1822 when he married Mary?

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Jun 2021 14:17

this is the nearest i can find
Mary
Last name Harrison
Age 24
Birth year 1798
Death year 1822
Burial year 1822
Burial date 29 Sep 1822
Dedication St Alkmund
Denomination Anglican
Place Derby, St Alkmund
County Derbyshire
Country England
Record set Derbyshire Deaths And Burials

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Jun 2021 14:24

Yes, she must have died before 22/04/1822, assuming he was telling the truth when he said he was a widower.

However, the parish record of either the marriage (if she wasn't Mary Ford) or the burial may not have survived.

And unfortunately, there seem to have been quite a number of John Harrisons in the general Ashbourne area around the right time.