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Roger Report 6 Jul 2021 12:27

I am trying to trace my relatives. Born in Pontypridd. (Born 1940) Father Percival (Percy) John Baker (Born 1898) and mother Catherine Brown Born 1905) . One known brother John Derrick (Born 1923). Browns and Baker family lived in Nant-yMoel .

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jul 2021 12:39

Trace in what way ?

Their births or where they be now ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jul 2021 12:46


Percival J Baker
Registration Date: Apr 1922
[May 1922]
[Jun 1922]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Bridgend
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Spouse: Catherine Brown
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1655

Not seeing them on the 1939 register

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jul 2021 12:48

Name: Catherine Brown
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Bridgend
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 921

GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in BRIDGEND Volume 11A Page 921


ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2021 12:49

Births Sep 1940 (>99%)
BAKER Roger Brown Pontypridd 11a 1046

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Baker John D Brown Pontypridd 11a 1293

Catherine in 1939 ??

Catherine Baker
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Catherine Baker
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1905
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 18 Oakfield, Nant-y-Moel
Residence Place: Ogmore and Garw, Glamorganshire, Wales
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 27
Schedule Number: 232
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: XJUQ
Borough: Ogmore and Garw
Registration district: Bridgend 591/1
Household Members Age
John Brown 71 - 20 March 1868
Ellen Brown 69 - 15 April 1870
Catherine Baker 34

But no John Derrick or closed record with her.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jul 2021 12:51

Take it the 1940 birth is you ??

Look on freebmd for births from 1922 to 1940 using the surname combination and Glamorgan district


ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2021 12:56

What have you done yourself to try to find info?

And please say exactly what you are asking for


ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2021 12:58

Are you looking for living relatives, or ancestors?

As you've posted on the "Find Ancestors" board, I've assumed the latter, but it's hard to tell from your post..

As you say "one known brother", does that perhaps mean that you were adopted and are now tracing your birth family?

John Derrick and Roger (you?) are the only Baker/Brown births in Pontypridd RD 1922-1940.

There is this birth in Bridgend RD - but I don't know if this child is related to you or not:

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Baker Margaret Brown Bridgend 11a 1649


ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2021 13:09

Name: Percy J Baker
Age in 1901: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father: George Baker
Mother: Matilda M Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Ogmore, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyfodwg
Town: Tynewydd
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyfodwg St Tyvodwg
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration District: Bridgend
Sub-registration District: Ogmore
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 46
Piece: 5045
Folio: 80
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Baker 45
Matilda M Baker 43
Thomas G Baker 16
Edith H Baker 14
Frederick C Baker 12
Percy J Baker 2
Charles J Wentle 12....Nephew
William Lam 54....Visitor


ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2021 13:13

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
Baker George Ross 6a 760
WEALE Matilda Mary Ross 6a 760


ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2021 13:15

Percy John Baker
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Percy John Baker
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cymore Vale, Glamorgan, Wales [ Ogmore Vale on image ]
Civil Parish: Eglwysilan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 4 Stockland St Caerphilly
Registration District: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration District: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household Schedule Number: 188
Piece: 32232
Household Members:
Name Age
George Henry Rigsbey 39 - Mitchamton, Glos.
Alice Rigsbey 46 - Hungarron, Herefordshire [ Llangarron on image ]
Alfred John Stare 21 - stepson, Caerphilly
James Wintle 61 - boarder
Percy John Baker 12


ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2021 13:15

First name(s) Percy John
Last name Baker
Birth quarter 3
Birth year 1898
Mother's maiden name Weale
District Bridgend
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 822
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006


ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2021 13:19

The 'nephew' from 1901

GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in ROSS Volume 06A Page 452

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)

Tommy Sarah Elisabeth Ross 6a 995
Tommy Sarah Elizabeth Ross 6a 995
Wintle James Ross 6a 995


ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2021 13:20

Re 1911 on Ancestry -

in 2013 an Ancestry user named Paul Baker corrected Percy's birthplace.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jul 2021 13:29

Is this a possible?

Last name Baker
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1905
Age 44
Death quarter 4
Death year 1949
District Cardiff
County Glamorganshire
Volume 8B


ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2021 13:29

First name(s) Matilda M
Last name Baker
Gender Female
Age 61
Death quarter 1
Death year 1919
District Bridgend


ErikaH Report 6 Jul 2021 13:32

As Catherine was with parents in 1939, and Percy's birth was registered in JAS Qtr.....................suggestion ONLY

3 Mount Street, Blackburn, Blackburn C.B., Lancashire, England
William (B) Stockbridge 18 Jan 1891 Male Commercial Temperance Proprietor Married 199 1
Janet S Stockbridge 11 Mar 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 199 2
John B Stockbridge 05 Jul 1937 Male Not Of School Age Single 199 3
Mary E Green 16 Oct 1894 Female General Domestic Duties Hotel Single 199 4
Arthur H Kealwistle 29 Oct 1868 Male Architect & Quantities Surveyor Single 199 5
Percy J Baker 04 Aug 1898 Male Contract Engineer (Electrical) Ht & Lt Cables Overhead Transmission Married 199 6
Thomas Joyce 04 Nov 1908 Male Joiner Carpenter (Electrical Appliance Factory) Single 199 7

freebmd has one other birth for Percy John Baker in JAS 1898 - in Devizes. That man is in Wiltshire in 1939


ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2021 13:32

Percy is on 9 public trees on Ancestry.
Only one has his marriage to Catherine.

It lists children Jean, Joyce, Pat (female), John, and "private" female.
All said to be born in Nant-y-Moel - but no DOBs or proof given, and no other info.

Interestingly, the tree is the "Abshire Family Tree".

For Margaret Baker 1924, Ancestry suggests this marriage:

Margaret Baker
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Margaret Baker
Registration Date: Apr 1946
[May 1946]
[Jun 1946]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Chippenham
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Spouse: Albert J Abshire
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 191

Margaret Abshire
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Margaret Abshire
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1924
Birth Place: Wales <<<<<<<<<<<
Departure Port: Southampton
Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1951
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Final Destination: Port Arthur, Texas
Ship Name: Mauretania

Destination address: 3605 39th Street, Port Arthur, Texas.

Margaret Abshire
in the Texas, U.S., Naturalization Records, 1852-1991
Name: Margaret Abshire
Gender: Female
Declaration Age: 25
Record Type: Petition
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1924
Birth Place: Nortymael, So Wales, England <<<<<<<<<<<
Arrival Date: 13 Oct 1946
Arrival Place: New York City, New York, USA
Declaration Date: abt 1949
Declaration Place: Beaumont, Texas, USA
Spouse: Albert J Abshire
Name Relation
Margaret Abshire Self (Head)
Albert J Abshire Spouse
Court District: Eastern District of Texas
Petition Number: 2321

Margaret Abshire
in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Margaret Abshire
Gender: F (Female)
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1924
Birth Place: Wales, Metropolitan Borough of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England
Death Date: 3 Sep 2019
Death Place: Lumberton, Hardin County, Texas, United States of America
Cemetery: Saint Mark's Episcopal Church Garden Columbarium
Burial or Cremation Place: Beaumont, Jefferson County, Texas, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Albert Joseph Abshire

There's a nice photo of her on the Findagrave record.


ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2021 13:34

From Findagrave:

Obituary for Margaret Abshire
Margaret Abshire, 95, of Lumberton, passed away on September 3, 2019.

A memorial service will be held at 11:00 a.m., Saturday, September 7, 2019, at St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Beaumont with a reception at 10:30 a.m.

Born in Nantymoel, South Wales, on April 22, 1924, she was the daughter of Percival John Baker and Cathleen Brown Baker. Margaret loved gardening and being surrounded by flowers. She was a wonderful cook. Margaret enjoyed watching the Astros, reading, and traveling every chance she got. She was a loving mother and a wonderful grandmother, taking in everyone who she encountered, with love and kindness.

She was preceded in death by her husband of over 60 years, A.J. Abshire; parents, Percival and Cathleen Baker; brother, John Baker; and sister, Pat Baker.

She is survived by her son, Richard Abshire and wife Gay of Lumberton; grandchildren, Britney & P.J. Norman, and Heath & Breeann Abshire; great-grandchildren, Colt & Brylee Norman, and Hunter & Hanna Abshire; and sisters, Gene and Joyce of England; along with numerous nieces and nephews.

In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to St. Mark's Treasure House at 680 Calder Avenue, Beaumont, Texas 77701.


ArgyllGran Report 6 Jul 2021 13:36

As Margaret's death was so recent, the funeral home might be able and willing to put you in touch with the family ??