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Hello, I thought I would give an update on the above. I sent for Thomas Walter and Catherine Alice's marriage certificate - it says Catherine Alice Keogh otherwise Beaumont married Walter Fawcett 4 March 1916. He is a private 22nd battalion DLI and in brackets a coal miner. HIs father is Daniel Fawcett also a miner. So I reckon the Fawcetts above are Thomas parents.

As mentioned I couldn't find them after 1919. Then I found a marriage for Catherine A Bowmont to Charles H M Smith 1928 at Chester le Street area so because of the Bowmont, I sent for the certificate as follows:

21 April 1928 Catherine Alice Bowmont (40) she has added a few years to her age, married Charles Hasting McGregor Smith 47. Catherine a spinster and Housekeeper and Charles a widower and is a plasterer. Address 52 Crawford Terrace, Birtley for both of them. Charles father is Samuel Smith deceased, a joiner. Catherine has now put Charles deceased as her father, (not Martin Keogh) occupation locomotive engine driver. Catherine Alice Smith dies 1933 Birtley. See the 1939 register for Charles below.

1939 Register
3 Quigley Terrace, Birtley, Chester-Le-Street R.D., Durham, England

Charles Smith 19 Jun 1879 Male Plasterer (Unemployed) Widowed 157 1
Charles M Smith 21 Sep 1904 Male Labourer (Unemployed) Married 157 2
Eleanor A Smith 22 Apr 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 157 3
Matthew Smith 29 Mar 1918 Male Miner Pony Driver Single 157 4

So where is Sylvia Clare who was born 1919. I found a death for Sylvia Clara Bowman for 1925 aged 5 so I took a gamble and sent for the death certificate. She died on 20 February 1925 at Gateshead Childrens Hospital, cause of death something to do with her lungs, I can't read the writing. My heart sank when I saw her father was George Bowman BUT her address was B26 Crawford Terrace, Elizabethville, Birtley, the same address as Charles and Catherine. The informant was Charles Smith again of B26 Crawford Terrace. I think Catherine married Charles bigamously and passed Sylvia off as a relative's child.

When I googled Elizabethville, it was an area of Birtley built to house Belgian refugees at the start of WW1. It was split into sections A - D. At the end of the war in 1918 when the Belgians returned home, the local population moved in. It's an interesting article for anyone interested in history.

Marian

Hello Shirley, I've been in touch with Hartlepool library and they have given me an email address and they will look at their parish records for St James to see if (Thomas) Walter and Catherine Alice got married in church but this will take quite a while. If they didn't I will just have to fork out for the certificate. Many thanks.

Ahh missed that

So much to read through and possibly some edited going on too

Missed the ref to George too :-(


So maybe you need the marriage cert for its info

It doesn’t help he seems to have different spellings of his surname

Hello Shirley, I have George and I have his cemetery record from Durham records. Erika has mentioned the WW1 card earlier in the post. My brick wall is that after 1920 when Sylvia was born, there appears to be no record of them. The 1939 census has also been searched but without any luck which is why I thought they might have emigrated. I don't have any info on Walter other than his name on the baptism records for the children was Thomas Walter but his marriage was Walter. I am probably going to have to get the marriage certificate to see who his father was although I don't think it will help with going forward after 1920, but thank you for looking.

Do you kniw any more info on Walter


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Walter Forsett
in the UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

Name: Walter Forsett
Regiment or Corps: Durham Light Infantry, Labour Corps
Regimental Number: 62, 442543
Other Records: Search for 'Walter Forsett' in other WWI collections


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Walter Forsett
in the UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
Name: Walter Forsett
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Private
Company: WO 329
Regiment or Corps: Labour Corps
Regiment Number: 442543
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Other Records: Search for 'Walter Forsett' in other WWI collections
War Diaries (France, Belgium, Germany): Search for 'Labour Corps' in the WWI War Diaries (France, Belgium, Germany) collection
War Diaries (Gallipoli): Search for 'Labour Corps' in the WWI War Diaries (Gallipoli) collection

Another child

Births Dec 1916
Forsett George R Keogh Hartlepool 10a 176

Sadly

Deaths Sep 1916
Forsett George R 0 Hartlepool 10a 131

Marriages Mar 1916
Beaumont Catherine A Forsett Hartlepool 10a 285
Keogh Catherine A Forsett Hartlepool 10a 285

Diff in page nos

Forsett Walter Keogh Hartlepool 10a 233
Forsett Walter Beaumont Hartlepool 10a 233

Hello Argyll, thank you but I was only asking for info on Catherine who is the mystery illegitimate daughter. I have all the info I need on Annie's other children who went under the names Bowman/Bowmont/Beaumont.

You said you didn't have much on the rest of the family, so that's what I've posted!

Annie's son Harry/Horatio:

BOWMONT, HORATIO mmn RACE
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 160


He's Horatio in 1881, Harry in 1891, Harald in 1901 - all living with his mother and siblings.

Horatio Bowman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Horatio Bowman
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 250
Records on Page:
Name
Horatio Bowman
Ada Sedgwick



Horates Bowman
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Horates Bowman
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hunslet
Country: England
Street Address: 125 Dewsbury Rd Leeds
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Fruiterar
Registration District Number: 501
Sub-registration District: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Piece: 27144
Household Members:
Name Age
Horates Bowman 34
Ada Bowman 32
Horace Bowman 3
Ethel Bowman 1



???
Ada Bowman
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Ada Bowman
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1878
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 3 Brinkburn St
Residence Place: Sunderland, Durham, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 4
Schedule Number: 3
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: FDAO
Borough: Sunderland
Registration district: 551-1
Household Members Age
Ada Bowman 61
Doris Herring 34


EDIT - No, that can't be the right Ada in 1939 -

Horatio Bowman
in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
Name: Horatio Bowman
Gender: Male
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Age: 39
Marital status: Married
Birth Year: 1877
Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1910
Home in 1916: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Address: 17, 19, 2, Regina
Relation to Head of Household: Head
Spouse: Ada Bowman
Sub-District: 02
Sub District Description: Townships 16 and 17, range 18, 19 and 20, W. 2. M., including the Villages of Pilot Butte and North Regina, and exclusive of the City of Regina
Enumeration District: 2
Enumerator's Name: Melvin N Harris
Dwelling House: 205
Religion: Anglican
Can Speak English: Yes
Can Speak French: No
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Occupation: Grocery Clerk
Employment status: Worker
Employer: Grocery Store
Household Members:
Name Age
Horatio Bowman 39
Ada Bowman 37 - England
Horace Bowman 8 - England
Ethel Bowman 6 - England
Eric Bowman 1 - Saskatchewan



Mrs Ada Bowman
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mrs Ada Bowman
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1878
Departure Date: 13 Sep 1913
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Saturnia
Shipping Line: Donaldson Line
Official Number: 129489
Master: David Taylor

Travelling with children Horace 5, and Ethel 4.


?? did Horatio change his name, or is this a different family??

Ada Bowman
in the Canada, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Ada Bowman
Birth Date: 1879
Death Date: 1974
Cemetery: Regina Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Regina, Regina Census Division, Saskatchewan, Canada
Spouse: Percy Bowman (1877-1946)

Percy is on the same gravestone.


Ada Bowman
in the Canada, Newspapers.com Obituary Index, 1800s-current
Name: Ada Bowman
Gender: Female
Death Age: 95
Birth Date: abt 1879
Residence Place: 2129 Rose T, Regina, Sask .
Death Date: 1974
Obituary Date: 8 Feb 1974
Obituary Place: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Spouse: H. P. Bowman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Child: Ethel I J. Drew White


Son Eric in same cemetery:

Eric Bowman
Birth 1914
Death 1989 (aged 74–75)
Burial Regina Cemetery
Regina, Regina Census Division, Saskatchewan, Canada


Eric Bowman
in the Canada, Newspapers.com Obituary Index, 1800s-current
Name: Eric Bowman
Gender: Male
Death Age: 74
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1914
Birth Place: Regina
Death Date: 20 Apr 1989
Obituary Date: 22 Apr 1989
Obituary Place: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Spouse: Dorothy
Children: Warren, Bernice Am-Brosi, Doreen Driescher
Siblings: Sydney, Ethel Drew


Ethel's marriage:

Ethel
in the Canada, Newspapers.com Marriage Index, 1800s-1999
Name: Ethel [Ethel Bowman]
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 21 Oct 1939
Marriage Place: Vancouver
Father: H. P. Bowman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Bowman
Spouse: Joseph Frederick Drew

Hello Argyll, thank you for the above which I already have. It is Catherine, her husband Thomas Walter and their daughter Sylvia that I can't find after 1919. They just disappear.

Eva's other daughter Ena Muriel Whitwell:

WHITWELL, ENA MURIEL mmn BOWMONT
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 140


Ena M Whitwell
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Ena M Whitwell
Registration Date: Jul 1932
[Aug 1932]
[Sep 1932]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Warminster
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Spouse: Charles W Jenkins
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 354


Eva M Jenkins
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Eva M Jenkins [Ena M Jenkins]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 21 Dec 1906
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Stableyard Cottage, Hinchingbrooke
Residence Place: Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 23
Schedule Number: 86
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: TEBA
Borough: Huntingdon
Registration district: 171-4
Inferred Spouse:
Charles W Jenkins
Household Members Age
Charles W Jenkins 33 - butler-valet
Eva M Jenkins 33
[two closed records ]


Ena Muriel Jenkins
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ena Muriel Jenkins
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1906
Registration Date: Jul 1975[Aug 1975] [Sep 1975]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Warwick and Leamington
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 31
Page: 0466

Marriage of Eva's daughter Winifred Claire Whitwell:

Winifred C Whitwell
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Winifred C Whitwell
Registration Date: Oct 1933
[Nov 1933]
[Dec 1933]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Hartlepool
Inferred County: Durham
Spouse: Thomas E Bunn
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 276


Winifred C Bunn
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Winifred C Bunn
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1908
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 6
Residence Place: West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 42
Schedule Number: 78
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: FEAT
Borough: West Hartlepool
Registration district: 545/1
Inferred Spouse:
Thomas E Bunn
Household Members Age
Thomas E Bunn 49
Winifred C Bunn 31


Winifred Claire Bunn
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Winifred Claire Bunn
Death Age: 61
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1908
Registration Date: Jul 1969[Aug 1969] [Sep 1969]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10b
Page: 1284

No help with Catherine, I'm afraid. Can't see her anywhere.

But re Annie's other children - you said you didn't have much on them.

Clara is with her mother in 1901.

This may be her in 1911:

Clara Bowmont
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Clara Bowmont
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: West Hastpool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Bridlington
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Princess Street Bridlington
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Shop Assistant
Registration District Number: 526
Sub-registration District: Bridlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Piece: 28896
Household Members:
Name Age
Edith Miles 39 - head, single
Mary Jane Wray 40 - sister, widow
Annie Husband 56 - sister, married
Clara Husband 24
Rose Husband 21
Herbert Husband 15
Walter Husband 13
Clara Bowmont 30


Clara Bowmont
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Clara Bowmont
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Darlington
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 25
Records on Page:
Name
Clara Bowmont
John W Layfield


Clara Layfield
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Clara Layfield
Death Date: 8 May 1953
Death Place: Darlington
Probate Date: 13 Aug 1953
Probate Registry: Durham, England

Widow.
Probate to Eva Moller (wife of Ernest Matthias Moller).


Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
Bowman Eva Moller Hartlepool 10a 312
Moller Ernest M Bowman Hartlepool 10a 312
Moller Ernest M Whitwell Hartlepool 10a 312
WHITWELL Eva Moller Hartlepool 10a 312


Eva's first marriage:

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
Bowman Eva Hartlepool 10a 268
WHITWELL Thomas Hartlepool 10a 268


Eva Whitwell
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Eva Whitwell
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: West Hartlepool
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Lister Street Dtlpool
Marital status: Married
Registration District Number: 545
Sub-registration District: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 29621
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Whitwell 29
Eva Whitwell 28
Ena Whitwell 4
Clare Whitwell 3
Ernest Miller 28 - officer in Mercantile Marine



Deaths Sep 1975 (>99%)
MOLLER EVA 3FE1884 C CLEVELAND 3 1846



Eva Moller
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Eva Moller
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 3 Feb 1883
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 13.
Residence Place: Darlington, Durham, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 7
Schedule Number: 308
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: FACD
Borough: Darlington
Registration district: 543-2
Inferred Spouse:
Ernest M Moller
Household Members Age
Ernest M Moller 55 - master mariner
Eva Moller 56

nnn

Sometimes it is necessary to go 'back' in order to come 'forward' -especially when info is sparse.

I will leave this now, as there is no sign of her in 1939 as far as I can see

I just edited my last post as it was easier than re typing some of it

There was also Osmaond Bowmont 1879 - 1880
Annies husband Charles died 1886 Hartlepool age 34

I think that Catherine Alice was probably the child of Annie and Martin Keogh

EDIT *** sorry Marion i've just read your last post :-)

Hello, yes I have the above. The background is that Catherine is on the 1901 and 1911 census with Annie as daughter. Nothing is known about Catherine. She is obviously the illegitimate daughter of Martin Keogh (the lodger) and Annie (he dies 1899 aged 51 in Hartlepool. As far as I know, Catherine was never mentioned by any of her siblings and she is not mentioned in Annie's Will. She is a mystery. Annie married in January 1891 to John Best but very briefly as he is back with his parents in 1901.

I am only trying to find info on Catherine from 1911 onwards, so please don't waste your time going back over but thank you very much for looking at my request.

Name: Catherine Alice Beaumont
Gender: Female
Christening Age: 0
Birth Date: 7 Dec 1891
Christening Date: 22 Dec 1891
Christening Place: West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Father: Martin Keogh Beaumont
Mother: Annie Beaumont

NOW we have a DoB........but it doesn't help with 1939, as there is no-one on there which could be her

KEOGH, CATHERINE ALICE BEAUMONT
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 120

Martin Keogh in 1891 was single - occupation Joiner

Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%)
Keogh Martin 51 Hartlepool 10a 76

1881

Name: Annie Bowmont
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Charles Bowmont
Gender: Female
Where born: Catterick, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Stranton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Stainton St
Marital status: Married
Registration District: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4910
Folio: 157
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Bowmont 28
Annie Bowmont 28
Horatio Bowmont 4
Clara Bowmont 1
James Hammond 34

BOWMONT, CLARA RACE
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 117