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Elizabeth May b 1852 - died 1903 Maidstone

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 13:55

George and Mercy also had a child named Jesse, brother or half brother to Elizabeth Gammon May?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

High Street, Aylesford, Malling, Kent, England

George May Male 31 1810 Kent, England
Mercy May Female 34 1807 Kent, England
Thomas May Male 14 1827 Kent, England
George May Male 12 1829 Kent, England
James May Male 10 1831 Kent, England
Stephen May Male 8 1833 Kent, England
William henry May Male 6 1835 Kent, England
**Jesse May Male 4 1837 Kent, England**
Sarah ann May Female 1 1840 Kent, England

No indication of George's occupation, unless he's meant to be an ag lab like the man above him in the census.

EDIT, I see Jesse was also on the 1851 census, as posted previously.by Shirley.

Henry, the four year old on the 1851 census, was baptised as son of George, a labourer, and Mercy Anne May.


First name(s) Henry
Last name May
Baptism date 06 Jun 1847
Baptism year 1847
Place Aylesford, Ss Peter & Paul
Residence Aylesford
Father's first name(s) George<<<<
Father's occupation Laborer<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother's first name(s) Mercy Anne<<<<<<<<<<<
County Kent
Country England
Archive Kent History & Library Centre
Archive reference P12/1/B/1
Register type Baptisms
Year range 1813-1853
Page 175
Record set Kent Baptism

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 14:16

May be totally unrelated, but there was a GAMMON family in Aylesford in 1851

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Old Bell House, Aylesford, Malling, Kent, England

Stephen Gammon Head Married Male 65 1786 Ag lab Boxley, Kent, England
Charlotte Gammon Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Frittenden, Kent, England
Theodora Gammon Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 - Aylesford, Kent, England
Edward Twort Lodger Widower Male 74 1777 Ag lab Kent, England

Seems a bit old for Mercy Anne though.
EDIT found a more likely candidate, living in Bowling Alley in 1851 see later post.

Can't find a George May's death between 1846 and 1851.

EDIT found one in July 1850. see next post

If it were me, I would be tempted to get the 1851 birth cert, to see if there is any more information on that.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 14:20

Death of George????????

Looks like it might be slightly too early for Elizabeth Gammon May to be his posthumous daughter.

First name(s) George
Last name May
Birth year 1806
Age 44
Burial year 1850
Burial date 05 Jul 1850
Residence Aylesford
Place Aylesford, Ss Peter & Paul
County Kent
Country England
Archive Kent History & Library Centre


South Eastern Gazette 09 July 1850

Poor George seems to have been engaged in emptying privies, when the horses drawing the soil hutch he was riding on took off. Another man jumped clear, but poor George ended up under the wheel. He left a wife and, apparently, ten children.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 14:53

Oooooh, gossip mongering, Shirley has already posted widowed Mercy Anne May was living in Bowling Alley in 1851.

So was this young man, William Gammon!

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Bowling Alley, Aylesford, Malling, Kent, England

John Sargant Head Married Male 44 1807 Ag lab Aylesford, Kent, England
Sarah Sargant Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Aylesford, Kent, England
John Sargant Son - Male 12 1839 Shepperd's boy Aylesford, Kent, England
Susannah Sargant Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Aylesford, Kent, England
George Sargant Son - Male 2 1849 - Aylesford, Kent, England
James Hammond Lodger Unmarried Male 27 1824 Gardener Yalding, Kent, England
***William Gammon Lodger Unmarried Male 27 1824 Stone quarry man Peckham, Kent, England***
John Davey Lodger Unmarried Male 25 1826 Waggoner Exeter, Devon, England


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Bowling Alley, Aylesford, Malling, Kent, England

***Mercy ann May Head Widow Female 60 1791 Pauper Aylesford, Kent, England***
Stephen May Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Ag lab Aylesford, Kent, England
William May Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Ag lab Aylesford, Kent, England
Jesse May Son - Male 14 1837 Ag lab Aylesford, Kent, England
Sarah May Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Aylesford, Kent, England
Henry May Son - Male 4 1847 - Aylesford, Kent, England

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 15:29

In belated response to greyghost's quesiton last night, the marriage register image shows spaces for father's name and occupation simply have a line drawn through them.

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name May
Age Full
Marriage year 1878
Marriage date 14 Jul 1878
Marital status Spinster
Marriage place Maidstone, St Faith
Spouse's first name(s) Robert
Spouse's last name Wilson
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's condition Bachelor
Spouse's occupation Waterman
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer
Licence or banns Banns
First witness James Robinson
Second witness Betsy Groom
County Kent
Country England
Archive Kent History & Library Centre
Archive reference P241B/1/D/1
Register type Marriages
Year range 1872-1912
Page 53
Record set Kent Marriages And Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

Derek

Derek Report 10 Aug 2021 16:27

Further confusion - I have found records namely 1861 census of Jesse Honey (1817) and Frances(Trice) Honey having a son John I P Honey ( 1847 -1873 ) But can find no other info. - do you suppose this is actually Jesse James Paul Honey ( 1847 -1873) who is listed as John JP / IP Honey age 14 - to avoid confusion with father or indeed was a pet name by family ?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 16:33

Yes, it is Derek, he is John J P on FMP transcript, and image, but Jesse on baptism.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

1, Wind Mill Row, Maidstone, Kent, England

***Jesse Honey Head Married Male 43 1818 Waterman captain of a barge Maidstone, Kent, England
Frances E Honey Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Maidstone, Kent, England
***John J P Honey Son- Male 14 1847 Scholar Maidstone, Kent, England
Frances ... Honey Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Maidstone, Kent, England
James H Honey Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Maidstone, Kent, England
Ann A M Honey Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Maidstone, Kent, England
Charles H Honey Son - Male 1 1860 - Maidstone, Kent, England


First name(s) Jesse James Paul
Last name Honey
Baptism date 31 Mar 1847
Baptism year 1847
Place Maidstone, Holy Trinity
Residence Maidstone
Father's first name(s) Jesse
Father's occupation Waterman
Mother's first name(s) Frances Elizabeth
County Kent
Country England
Archive Kent History & Library Centre
Archive reference P241A/1/B/1
Register type Baptisms
Year range 1842-1853
Page 130
Record set Kent Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 17:19

Sidetracking a bit, but the Honeys seem to have an affinity for Windmill Row

Baptism Of Jesse Honey c1817

First name(s) Jesse
Last name Honey
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 26 Dec 1817
Church All Saints
Place Maidstone, All Saints
Residence Maidstone
Relationship Son of
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -
Parent's occupation Waterman
County Kent
Country England
Record source Maidstone All Saints baptisms 1558-1912
Record set Kent Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

With parents in Windmill Row in 1841 (age of over 15s was rounded down to the nearest 5 years)

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Windmill Row, Maidstone, Kent, England

Robert Honey Male 60 1781 Kent, England
Ann Honey Female 50 1791 Kent, England
Jesse Honey Male 20 1821 Kent, England
Hannah Leach Female 20 1821 -
Henry Leach Male 8 1833

Image says Robert and Son Jesse are watermen.

Marriages Sep 1844
HONEY Jesse Maidstone 5 379
TRICE Frances Elizabeth Maidstone 5 379

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 17:21

Has anyone found Elizabeth May in census 1861?

Derek

Derek Report 10 Aug 2021 17:31

Further - Found Jesse Honey in 1891 census - from Maidstone aged 21 and Mate of Barge living at 8 Solomons CT, Chatham as Visitor.

The Binskin Family live there with Albert King (Adopted)

Jesse Honey (1817) and Frances Elizabeth Trice (1825) had a daughter Ann Amelia Maria Honey (1856 -1921) who married Harry Enoch Binskin (1855 )

her sister Frances Elizabeth Mary Ann Honey (1851 -1887) died in child birth to Albert King (1887 - 1949) who was adopted by Ann and Harry Binskin so fits in with census detail.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Aug 2021 18:51

1861 - I don't think it's been posted before - if so I missed it:



George May
in the 1861 England Census
Name: George May
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Aylesford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Aylesford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Bowling Alley <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration District: Malling
Sub-registration District: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 201
Piece: 484
Folio: 67
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
George May 33 - head, married, labourer in a brickfield
Henry May 14
Elizabeth May 3 [ age is almost blacked out - could be 8, or scored out altogether] <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Also in the household, but transcribed separately, on her own, on Ancestry - probably because she's listed as "head", as is George:

Mary A May, head, widow, 55, field labourer, Aylesford

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 10 Aug 2021 19:04

I did wonder if 'Bomb Alley', where the May-Honey household resides in 1871, and which only seems to exist in that 1871 census, is connected with 'Bowling Alley' where widowed Mercy May and family were in 1851, and, it seems, widowed 'Mary A' as posted by AG, and Elizabeth May were in 1861.

Henry May 14, in AG's Bowling Alley 1861 census, tallies with widow Mercy May's son Henry in Shirley's 1851 & 1871 censuses; I also posted his baptism previously showing he was the son of George and Mercy Anne May.

I suspect that is Elizabeth '8' on the 1861 register, though she was actually nine years and several months old at the time .

In the 1871 census, sharing no 2 Bomb Alley with the May-Honey household, but listed as a separate head of household,is 23 yr old unmarried Jane Honey, charwoman, and her year old daughter Jane.