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Hi my ancestor Caroline hannah cason b1882 in Gateshead married John Robson as hannah cason in 1902 they had a daughter Sarah b 1902 my grandmother then had another daughter Sarah Elizabeth b 1904 hannah and Sarah Elizabeth died sometime before 1911 but I can't find a death for either of them any help would be appreciated

Where have you looked?

Where was Sarah Elizabeth’s birth registered?

Where were they living on the 1901 census or at the time of the 1904 birth.

Presumably the first Sarah died? Why else would the second child be given the same name…………

If Hannah was your grandmother, which child of hers was your parent?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
ROBSON, SARAH CASON
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 1029

ROBSON, SARAH ELIZABETH CASON
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 984

When you say Hannah died before 1911, do you mean Caroline Hannah??

These are the only deaths in the general area pre 1911

Name: Age at Death (in years):
ROBSON, SARAH 0
GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 44

Name: Age at Death (in years):
ROBSON, SARAH ELIZABETH 1
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 168

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Event Type Census
Name John Robson
Sex Male
Age 30
Event Date 1911
Event Place Gateshead, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Gateshead, Gateshead, Durham, England
Sub-District Gateshead
Sub-District Number 2
Enumeration District 44
Registration District Gateshead
District Number 557
Birth Year (Estimated) 1881
Birthplace Gateshead, Durham
Marital Status Married
Occupation CLARK CHAPMAN
Nationality BRITISH
Number in Family 7
Industry CO TURNER
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Document Type 3
Page Number 1
Source Page Type 6
Piece/Folio 471
Registration Number RG14
Schedule Type 236
John Robson's Spouses and Children
Sarah Robson
Daughter
F
9 ??????????????????
Gateshead, Durham
Other People on This Record
Thomas Robson
M
25
Gateshead, Durham
Edward Robson
M
22
Gateshead, Durham
Fred Robson
M
19
Gateshead, Durham
Jacob Robson
M
17
Gateshead, Durham
Mary Robson
F
15
Gateshead, Durham

For our reference:

Sarah Robson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Sarah Robson
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Gateshead, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Gateshead
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Christopher St
Registration District Number: 557
Sub-registration District: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Piece: 30454
Household Members:
Name Age
John Robson 30 - MARRIED <<<<<<<<
Thomas Robson 25 - brother
Edward Robson 22 - brother
Fred Robson 19 - brother
Jacob Robson 17 - brother
Mary Robson 15 - sister
Sarah Robson 9


John Robson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: John Robson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed <<<<<<<<<
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1880
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 12 Christopher Street
Residence Place: Gateshead, Durham, England
Occupation: Iron Turner
Line Number: 29
Schedule Number: 72
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: FBNP
Borough: Gateshead
Registration district: 557-2
Household Members Age
John Robson 59
Thomas Robson 54
Frederick Robson 47



Sarah Robson
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Sarah Robson
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 21 Jul 1902
Baptism Place: Holy Trinity, Gateshead, Durham, England
Father: John Robson
Mother: Hannah
FHL Film Number: 1514578
Reference ID: P 168 L 1341

Sorry got called away Sarah b 1902 is my grandmother yes that is her in 1911 census. Yes I mean Caroline hannah died before 1911 but she just went by hannah all births in gateshead

Sorry got called away Sarah b 1902 is my grandmother yes that is her in 1911 census. Yes I mean Caroline hannah died before 1911 but she just went by hannah all births in gateshead

The death in tynemouth isn't her as there was also a Sarah Elizabeth b 1904 in tynemouth died 1905 mine Sarah was born gateshead

Sarah Elizabeth definitely died before 1911.
Although it's later been scored out, in 1911 John says he's had two children, of whom one has died.


Just a long shot;

Deaths Mar 1905
Robson Elizabeth 0 Gateshead 10a 613

Thanks will check it out

hi Lynne

where did they live before 1911

do you have marriage cert and birth certs for the children ?

don't know who elizabeth is just putting this on for the address

Cemetery Registers Gateshead 1906 Elizabeth Robson abt 1861 12 Christopher Street xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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age out a little bit may be the 7 could be a 2

Cemetery Registers Gateshead 1909 Hannah Robson abt 1887 156 Alexander Road

Hi that's interesting as it's the same address as they were living will check it out thanks

Thanks of to dentist will check it later where do you look for cemetery register

Hi the Elizabeth Robson who died 1909 is John's mother

12 Christopher Street is John's address in 1911 and 1939.

This will be the death associated with the 1906 cemetery register:

Deaths Sep 1906 (>99%)
Robson Elizabeth 45 Gateshead 10a 578

Looks like John's mother:

Eliz Robson
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Eliz Robson
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Thos Robson
Birth Place: Gateshead
Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: Venerable Bede
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 21 Spencer Street
Registration District: Gateshead
Sub-registration District: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors:
Piece: 4757
Folio: 113
Page Number: 47
Household Schedule Number: 277
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Robson 42
Eliz Robson 41
John Robson 26
Burton Robson 17
Thos Robson 18
Ed Robson 12
Fredk Robson 8
Jacob Robson 6
Mary Robson 4