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W.H.Webbe b. London 1856

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alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Sep 2021 13:41

You could order his death certificate from this site if you wanted. It is pretty expensive and I have no idea what details would be on it.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2021 13:57

if the 1876 marriage is his cert wwill name his father
ancestry only has the banns
Name: Alice Cooper
Gender: Female
Record Type: Bann
Marriage Banns Date: 1876
Marriage Banns Place: St Paul, Upper Holloway, Islington, England
Spouse:
William Henry Webbe
Register Type: Parish Register

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Sep 2021 14:05

There are trees on ancestry suggesting that this is the marriage of a William Henry Webbe Porter and that he dropped the Porter before his marriage but there is nothing to verify this.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 14:11

Name: Emma Hoppe
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1875
Marriage Place: St Philip, Clerkenwell, Islington, England
Father: Joseph Hoppe
Spouse: William Henry Paulin Webb
Father: Charles Webb
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: William Henry Webbe-porter
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 804
Records on Page:
Name
William Henry Webbe-porter
William Henry W Porter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 14:13

No record of a death in 1874 of a Henry Webb born 1806

EDITED

He may have been resident in Ireland, in view of info on the website cracroftspeerage

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2021 14:13

dont know if you have this
Madeleine
Departure country England
Last name Wilcox
Destination New Zealand
Gender Female
Country New Zealand
Birth day 20
Destination place - country NEW ZEALAND
Birth month 10
Destination country New Zealand
Birth year 1886
Ship name Southern Cross
Marital status S
Ship gross tonnage 20000
Occupation Music teacher
Ship master's first name D
Departure day 11
Ship master's last name Aitchison
Departure month 12
Ship owner or agent SHAW SAVILL ALBION LINE
Departure year 1956
Number of passengers 0
City SOUTHAMPTON
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Departure port Southampton
Category Travel & migration
Entry struck out N
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Destination port New Zealand
Collections from Great Britain, England, Australasia

Madeleine
Country Australia
Last name Wilcox
Destination place - country AUSTRALIA
Gender Female
Destination country Australia
Birth year 1887
Ship name Maloja
Age 63
Ship registered tonnage 20914
Age as transcribed 63
Ship master's title Captain
Occupation Music teacher
Ship master's first name E F
Departure day 18
Ship master's last name Ferraby
Departure month 9
Shipping line P.& O.
Departure year 1950
Number of passengers 1021
City LONDON
Ship destination port Brisbane
Departure port London
Ship destination country Australia
Entry struck out N
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960

Madoleine
Funeral director Russell Firth
Last name Wilcox
Registration number 34265
Sex Unknown
Country New Zealand
Birth year -
Record set Purewa Cemetery Cremations
Death year -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Last residence Caughey Preston Home, Remuera, Auckland
Subcategory Parish Burials
Cremation date 25/07/1978
Collections from Australasia, New Zealand
Cremation method Returned
Copyright New Zealand Society of Genealogists St Johns Branch

Madoleine
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Last name Wilcox
Country New Zealand
Birth date 20/10/1886
Record set New Zealand Death Index
Age at death 92
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Registration year 1978
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Registration number 1978/37817
Collections from Australasia, New Zealand
Destination port Sydney
Category Travel & migration
Departure country England
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Destination Sydney
Collections from Great Britain, England, Australasia

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 14:15

Name: William Henry Webbe Porter., of Full age.......................Newspaper Agent
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1855
Marriage Place: St John, Hoxton, Hackney, England
Father: Henry Webbe Porter...........................Engraver
Spouse: Emily Poole.....Minor
Father: John Poole.....................Saddler
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: William Henry Webbe Porter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1856
Baptism Date: 2 Mar 1856
Baptism Place: Saint John The Baptist,Shoreditch,London,England
Father: William Henry Webbe Porter
Mother: Emily
FHL Film Number: 590838, 590839, 590840

PORTER, WILLIAM HENRY WEBBE POOLE
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in CLERKESWELL Volume 01B Page 498

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 21 Sep 2021 14:25

There is another entry for the baptism on the day of his birth at StJames, clerkenwell.
Same parents, Father is. An office clerk and it looks as though the address is. 20 Whiskins st (on Ancestry)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 14:36

Possible products of the 1876 marriage to Cooper

WEBBE, FRANCES HYPATIA COOPER
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in OF WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 510

WEBBE, TOM COOPER
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 529

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Sep 2021 14:39

looks like he married 1886 hackney
William Henry W
Country England
Last name Porter
Volume 1B
Marriage quarter 2
Volume as transcribed 1B
Marriage year 1886
Page number 804
Registration month -
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MarriageFinder™ William Henry W Porter married one of these people
Harriet Cooper
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Hackney

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 21 Sep 2021 16:23

Henry Webb Porter married in Islington 1846. His marriage certificate should give his fathers details.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 16:32

1846.............can't be the parents of William who married in 1855 unless it was very late for some reason

Or, of course, a second marriage

???
Deaths Dec 1879 (>99%)
Porter Henry Webb 70 Brentford 3a 32


Name: William Henry Webb Porter
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1836
Court Date: 27 Jan 1868
Court Place: London, England
Role: defendant
Offense: Category: Theft; Subcategory: stealingFromMaster
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Category: Multiple Punishments; SubCategory: Multiple Punishments
Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey

Name: William Henry W Porter
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1907
Volume: 1d
Page: 565

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 21 Sep 2021 16:36

Probably right.

There are several OldBailey entries in Ancestry for Henry Webb Porter with mother mentioned as Catherine.

Also looks like William Henry Webb Porter may have been a naughty boy.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 16:38

Name: William Henry Webb Porter
Trial Age: 32
Record Type: Criminal Trial
Birth Date: abt 1836
Trial Date: 30 Jan 1868
Trial Place: London, England
Criminal Date: 1868
Occupation: Clerk
Charge: larceny
Sentence: 6 years

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 16:43

Name: William Henry Webbe Porter
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Jun 1833
Baptism Place: St James, Clerkenwell, Islington, England
Father: Henry Webber Porter....................................Engraver (as per 1855 marriage)
Mother: Frances Porter

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 21 Sep 2021 17:10

Erika - did you sneak something extra in to your post of 16.32?

If Henry is the son of Catherine then possibly this is his birth 15/4/1808 baptised later at St Clement Danes, son of Joseph Porter and Catherine.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Sep 2021 17:21

Not guilty m’lud ;-) ;-)


‘Sneak’ is an unpleasant accusation…………….

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Sep 2021 12:19

Name: Henry Webbe Porter
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1810
Event Date: 23 Jun 1831
Parish: Clerkenwell, St James
County: Middlesex
Spouse's Name: Frances Allen
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Parish: Clerkenwell, St James
Event Type: Allegation

Name: Henry Webb Porter
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Brentford, Middlesex, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1879
Inferred Death Place: Middlesex, United Kingdom


alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Sep 2021 14:49

MR. W. H. WEBBE’S CONCERT AT ST. GEORGE’S HALL. Mr. W. H. gave his second annual social reunion at the above hall Thursday evening last, when a large number of friends, principally from Clerkenwell and Islington, gave him their support. Prior to the ball instrumental....
01 January 1877 - Islington Gazette - London, London, England


His new music did not go down particularly well with critics.

" Trust in Me " ( W . H . Webbe , , N . Z . ) , words by W . R . Wills , music by W . H . Webbe . We cannot say much in favour of this song . "Supplication" ( Berlin . Piano Importing Co , N . Z . ) This air , with variations , by W . H . Webbe , will prove useful as an exercise for pianoforte pupils. "Belle Polka", published by the same firm, composed by W H Webbe. This is not remarkable either for originality or cleverness.
04 March 1887 - The Stage - London, London, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Sep 2021 12:46

Two PM’s received - not sure what they relate to.
have advised responding on the thread, which I see is now ‘marked as answered’. So no further help required???