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Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Sep 2021 11:19

Please could I have some help with locating census records.

1871 census, Monk Street, Aberdare, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Christopher Martin 1845, Wife Catherine 1848,Son John 1869 and son Richard 1871

In 1881, 74 New Road, Hindley ,Wigan, Lancashire.
Christopher,Catherine,John,Richard, and Charity 1876, Sarah E 1878 and Thomas 1881.

Then in 1910 at Hanover,Luzerne,Pennsylvania,USA. Christopher,Catherine,Richard and Charlotte age 32, Thomas age 28 and Bessie age 24. According to this census Christopher (not stated whether with or without family) emigrated in 1888.

I cant find the family in 1890/1891 or 1900/1901. or in any emigration records.

I am trying to piece together what happened to the family members but without the missing census's its proving a bit difficult.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Sep 2021 11:37

is this son thomas

Name: Thomas Martin
Gender: M (Male)
Birth Date: Jan 1881
Birth Place: Wigan, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
Death Date: Sep 1881
Death Place: Wigan, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
Cemetery: Lower Ince Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ince in Makerfield, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
Has Bio?: Y
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/221812440/thomas-martin


?
1901 Scotland Census


Name: Charlotte Martin
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's Name: Catherine Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: England
Registration Number: 647
Registration district: Hamilton
Civil parish: Hamilton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Front Row Ferniegair
ED: 28
Household schedule number: 145
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1901_339
Household Members Age Relationship
Catherine Martin
52 Head
John Martin
30 Son
Richard Martin
28 Son
Charlotte Martin 25 Daur (Daughter)
Thonas Martin
20 Son
Bessie Martin
17 Daur (Daughter)
Katie Martin
15 Daur (Daughter)
Christopher Martin
13 Son

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 11:42

For our reference:

Christpher Marton
in the 1871 Wales Census
Name: Christpher Marton
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Marton
Gender: Male
Where born: Ludgvan, Cornwall, England
Civil parish: Aberdare
Town: Aberdare
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 5408
Folio: 61
Page number: 21
Household Members Age Relationship
Christpher Marton 26 Head
Catherine Marton 23 Wife
John Marton 2 Son
Richd Martin 2 Months Son


Christopher Martin
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Christopher Martin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Catherine Martin
Gender: Male
Where born: Penzance, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Hindley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 74 New Road Private House
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration District: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 3773
Folio: 38
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Christopher Martin 36
Catherine Martin 32
John Martin 12
Richard Martin 10
Charity Martin 5
Sarah E. Martin 3
Thomas Martin 0



Travelling back to UK:

Christopher Martin
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Christopher Martin
Arrival Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1845
Port of Departure: New York, New York, USA
Arrival Date: Jun 1899
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Teutonic
Official Number: 96334

Travelling with Catherine 51, John P 28, Richard 25, Charlotta 23, Thomas 18, Bessie 11, Kate 10, Christopher 8.



Christopher Martin
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Christopher Martin
Age in 1910: 60
Birth Date: 1850 [1850]
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA
House Number: 65
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Catherine Martin
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Miner
Industry: Coal Mines
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 40
Out of Work: N
Number of Weeks Out of Work: 20
Neighbors:
Household Members Age Relationship
Christopher Martin 60 Head
Catherine Martin 57 Wife
Richard Martin 35 Son
Charlotte Martin 32 Daughter
Thomas Martin 28 Son
Bessie Martin 24 Daughter

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 11:46

Charlotte Martin
in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Death Certificates, 1906-1967
Name: Charlotte Martin
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 73
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1876
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 18 Mar 1949
Death Place: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: Christopher Martin
Mother: Katherine Carbis
Certificate Number: 23803


Charlotte Martin
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Charlotte Martin
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Street: Oxford
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Catherine Martin
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Able to Speak English: Yes
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members Age Relationship
Catherine Martin 68 Head
Richard Martin 45 Son
Thomas R Martin 36 Son
Bessie Martin 30 Daughter
Charlotte Martin 38 Daughter

All immigrated in 1888

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 11:47

Charlotte Martin
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Charlotte Martin
Birth Year: abt 1876
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age in 1930: 54
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Sister
Homemaker?: Yes
Home in 1930: Hanover, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, USA
Map of Home:
Street Address: Axford St
House Number: 63
Dwelling Number: 186
Family Number: 199
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1888
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Household Members Age Relationship
Richard Martin 59 Head
Charlotte Martin 54 Sister
Thomas Martin 48 Brother
Bessie Martin 46 Sister

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Sep 2021 11:49

???
Chris
Arrival port Ellis Island, New York
Last name Martin
Place New York
Sex Male
Residence Hamilton
Age 56y
Country United States
Birth year 1845
Source dataset New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals
Origin country England
View original source record View the record's source
Year 1901
Record set British & Irish Roots Collection
Ship departure port Glasgow
Category Travel & migration
Destination country United States
Subcategory Migration
Arrival year 1901

Chris
Arrival place New York
Last name Martin
Ship name Ethiopia
Role Passenger
Country United States
Sex Male
Collection New York City Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Age 56y
NARA publication number M237 and T715
Birth year 1845
Record set United States, Passenger And Crew Lists
Nationality England, English
Category Travel & migration
Residence Hamilton -------------------
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Year 1901
Collections from Americas, United States
Departure port Glasgow

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 11:50

So the family appears to have emigrated in 1888, returned to the UK in 1899, were in Scotland in 1901, but back in the US by 1910/

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Sep 2021 11:52

Yes AG, they seemed to have moved around more than I thought. Thankyou for all this information.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 11:56

The 1901 record Maddie posted for Chris Martin travelling from Glasgow to NY -

he's a miner, travelling alone, married, English, last residence Hamilton, destination 81 Wyoming Street, Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania.
Paid his own passage.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 11:58

???
Chris Martin
in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1962
Name: Chris Martin
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 43
Birth Date: abt 1844
Birth Place: England
Last Residence: Scotland
Departure Place: Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland
Arrival Date: 14 Nov 1887
Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Ship: Manitoban

Occupation: miner.
Travelling alone.

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Sep 2021 12:00

I did see that one for "Chris" earlier, did wonder if it was him.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 12:02

???
Christr Martin
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Christr Martin
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Age: 20
Birth Date: abt 1845
Place of Origin: England
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Destination: USA
Arrival Date: 9 Nov 1865
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Wm Tapscott

Hard to know if there was more than one Chris* Martin or not.

This one also travelling alone.

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Sep 2021 12:04

Yes, thank you AG.

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Sep 2021 12:30

son john

Name: Minnie Martin
[Minnie Lanyon]
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Marital status: Married
Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1879
Birth Place: Scotland
Other Birth Place: Lakhall
Last Known Residence: Wilksbane, USA
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Arrival Date: 4 Nov 1908
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Final Destination: Wilksbane, Pennsylvania
Height: 5 Feet, 3 Inches
Hair Colour: Brown
Eye Colour: Black
Complexion: Fair
Person in Old Country: Wm Lanyon
Person in Old Country Relationship: Father
Person in US: John C Martin
Person in US Relationship: Husband
Father: Wm Lanyon
Spouse: John C Martin
Ship Name: California
Search Ship Database: Search for the California in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Sep 2021 12:41

Lanyon is another family name who I am familiar with, thank you Maddie, this is all brilliant, thank you.

Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Sep 2021 12:53

Just looked at my tree, Minnie is one of my Ancestors. Minnie Jane Lanyon 1874, Scotland to 1951, Pennsylvania, Father William George Lanyon, Mother Charity Martin 1850 Lugdvan,Cornwall.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 29 Sep 2021 14:19

Obituary for Charlotte Martin in the Wilkes-Barre Record 19 Mar 1949

Miss Charlotte Martin, 73 died at her home 72 Simon Block Street, Buttonwood at 12:30 yesterday following an illness of several years.
Born in England, Miss Martin came to Lee Park as a young girl and spent most of her life there, moving to Buttonwood several years ago.
She is survived by three sisters, Miss Bessie Martin with whom she made her home; Mrs Sarah Honeychurch, Lee Park, and Mrs Kate Lanyon, Philadelphia. A brother, Richard Martin, died one year ago.
The funeral will take place from the home Monday afternoon at 1:30 with interment at Pine Hill Cemetery, Shickshinny
Arrangements by Luther M Kniffen

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 29 Sep 2021 14:34

Death Announcement for Christopher Martin in the Wilkes-Barre Record 20 Mar 1912

Christopher Martin, aged 62, died yesterday afternoon at his home, 65 Oxford Street, of bronchitis. He is survived by his wife and the following children: John, Richard, Charlotte, Mrs Richard Honeychurch, Thomas, Bessie, Mrs Edward Lanyon and Christopher Jr.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Sep 2021 16:12

https://www.wilkes-barre.city/sites/g/files/vyhlif4086/f/uploads/wbcemeteryrecordscomplete.pdf

Lot no 653:
Burial of Lilian May Lanyon on 29 Jan 1906, aged 2 yrs 5 mths, "septicemia following blood poison". Death 28 Jan 1906. Daughter of E Lanyon. Grand-daughter of Mr & Mrs Christopher Martin, Oxford Street.


Deborah

Deborah Report 29 Sep 2021 16:37

Thank you so much for all that, I am so grateful.