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Help needed, Looking for a marriage around 1830

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ShelleyRose

ShelleyRose Report 1 Oct 2021 15:23

Hi can anyone help please, I'm looking for a marriage around 1830 between William Curtis b.1807 Chelsea, London and Ann (surname not known)b.1809 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire she d.1870 in Newport, Mon. William's occupation was a Seaman. I have the information on their children, their first two Catherine Elizabeth b.1832 and Ann b1836 were b in London, then William b.1841 Newport, Mon, then Ebenezer b.1842 in Lancashire. Many thanks in advance.

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Oct 2021 15:34

For our info -

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
South Market Street, St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Curtis Head Married Male 44 1807 Seaman Middlesex, England
Ann Curtis Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ann Curtis Daughter - Female 15 1836 - London, Middlesex, England
William Curtis Son - Male 10 1841 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Ebenezer Curtis Son - Male 9 1842 - Lancashire, England
Ann Curtis Mother Widow Female 86 1765 - Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary Ann Archer Lodger Unmarried Female 22 1829 Dressmaker Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales

no advance on Lancashire for Ebenezer

William born Chelsea



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Oct 2021 15:42

Where have you looked? To avoid duplication....................

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Oct 2021 15:45

Catharine Elizabeth
Mother's first name(s) Anne
Last name Curtis
Page 137
Birth year 1834
County Monmouthshire
Birth date ? ? 1834
Country Wales
Baptism year 1834
Record set Monmouthshire Baptisms
Baptism date 16 Aug 1834
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Newport, St Woolos
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) William
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

image says residing in london
proffession servant

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Oct 2021 15:50

Nothing on Ancestry in the way of marriage info

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Oct 2021 15:53

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
George Street, St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
View original record
Household members (13 people)
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Stephen Thomas Male 30 1811 Monmouthshire, Wales
Catharine Thomas Female 25 1816 Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary Ann Thomas Female 3 1838 Monmouthshire, Wales
Robert Thomas Male 2 1839 Monmouthshire, Wales
Ann Charles Female 74 1767 Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary Charles Female 20 1821 Monmouthshire, Wales
Catharine Curtis Female 9 1832 -
Ann Curtis Female 5 1836 -
William Curtis Male 1 1840 Monmouthshire, Wales
Joseph Thomas Male 18 1823 Monmouthshire, Wales
John Hitchings Male 30 1811 -
Mary Hitchings Female 25 1816 -
Ralph Hitchings Male 1 1840 -

not with parents

ShelleyRose

ShelleyRose Report 1 Oct 2021 17:02

ErikaH I've looked on findmypast, Ancestry, family search, I'm really after William Curtis wife maiden name, thought if I could find the marriage! I'm stumped on this one. Thanks.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Oct 2021 09:22

Is this a possibility

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CURTIS, EBENEZER COLLS
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL UNION Volume 02 Page 519

But your ebenezer may not have been registered

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Oct 2021 09:25

?
CURTIS, WILLIAM SAMUEL ROWLEY
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in MONMOUTH Volume 26 Page 77

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Oct 2021 09:37

Doesn’t help but for info

William Curtis
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1841
Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1841
Baptism Place: Newport St Paul, Monmouthshire, Wales
Father:
William Curtis
Mother:
Ann Curtis
Page number: 74

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Oct 2021 10:11

CURTIS, EBENEZER 0
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in WHITECHAPEL UNION Volume 02 Page 414

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Oct 2021 13:23

William
Piece number 111
Last name Curtis
Date range 1845-1854
Birth year 1806
Country Great Britain
Birth date 27 Nov 1806
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1835-1857
Birth place Chelsea
Category Education & work
Birth county/country Middlesex
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime
Archive The National Archives
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

resides i newport when unemployed
cant read info re voyages

William
Series BT116
Last name Curtis
Piece number 24
Birth year 1806
Date range 1853-1857
Birth date ? ? 1806
Country Great Britain
Age 47
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1835-1857
Birth place Chelsea
Category Education & work
Birth county/country Middlesex
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime
Archive The National Archives
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

seems to have spent time sailing frm liverpool

????????
William
Source Registers Of Wages And Effects Of Deceased Seamen, 1852-1889
Last name Curtis
Archive The National Archives
Birth year -
Archive reference BT 153
Death year 1861
Box 0005
Death date 24 Dec 1861
Page 125
Place Martha Pope
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Country Great Britain
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Type At Sea
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Vessel name Martha Pope
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Home port L Pool
xxxx the lungs xxx river thames

ShelleyRose

ShelleyRose Report 18 Oct 2021 14:54

Many thanks for all your replies, and my sincere apologies for the long delay in getting back to you all.
Maddie thank you for finding Catherine as a servant in London, and also for finding Catherine 9 Ann 5 and William 1 on the 1841 census without their parents, I wonder where they were?
Shirley I did see the Ebenezer Curtis with mmn Colls and did wonder if this was mine? the bapt of Wm. Curtis b.1841 is my gt. g/father.
Maddie thank you also for the info on Wm. b.1806 I didn't have his actual birth date or date of death, much appreciated.
Thank you also greyghost and ErikaH for searching for information for me it's very much appreciated

ShelleyRose x.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Oct 2021 15:45

Ebenezer b. Whitechapel died as per info posted

ShelleyRose

ShelleyRose Report 19 Oct 2021 09:33

ErikaH, thanks but Ebenezer is on the 1851 census for St. Woollos, Newport Monmouthshire age 9 with his family, just can't find him afterwards.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Oct 2021 09:45

The one who died was the one whose birth was registered, meaning that it WASN’T the one in your tree. That was the point I was making

ShelleyRose

ShelleyRose Report 19 Oct 2021 10:16

ErikaH thanks I misread your reply, my apologies.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Oct 2021 12:04

No problem ;-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 19 Oct 2021 13:53

The Registers Of Wages And Effects Of Deceased Seamen, 1852-1889 posted by Maddie above, is for a 19 year old, supposedly picked up in Belize and allowed to work his passage home on board the Martha Pope.
He died and was found to have been murdered.

Various papers of the time.
eg

Mr. Walthew resumed inquest on the body of William Curtis, aged 19, late steward on board the ship Martha Pope, which recently arrived in the West India Docks from Belize, Honduras, the deceased having died coming the Thames. Dr. Giles
31 December 1862 - Worcestershire Chronicle - Worcester, Worcestershire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Oct 2021 14:24

there is this as well but no age given
Wm
Source Registers Of Wages And Effects Of Deceased Seamen, 1852-1889
Last name Curtis
Archive The National Archives
Birth year -
Archive reference BT 153
Death year 1857
Box 0003
Death date 28 Sep 1857
Page 36
Place Paragon
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Country Great Britain
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Type At Sea
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Vessel name Paragon
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Home port Ipswich


Wm
Source Registers Of Wages And Effects Of Deceased Seamen, 1852-1889
Last name Curtis
Archive The National Archives
Birth year -
Archive reference BT 153
Death year 1863
Box 0005
Death date 2 Dec 1863
Page 320
Place William
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Country Great Britain
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Type At Sea
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Vessel name William
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Home port Greasby

not much help