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Dawson sisters Isabella, Annie and Florence.

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Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 16:31

Isabella Dawson was born in the March q of 1890, her sister Annie in the September q of 1895 and their younger sister Florence in the March q or 1907. all Gateshead.
They were the daughters of William Dawson born Sheriff Hill, Gateshead in 1860 and Mary Armstrong born 1867 to 1869 Gateshead or Spennymoor Durham.

I can find the three sisters on the 1911 census living at 55 Fullerton Place, Gateshead with their parents and siblings but nothing after this date.
I am hoping someone on Genes R is also following this line and knows if these women married and if so to whom.

They had three other sisters Mary Jane, Elizabeth and Sarah who I believe I have traced and brothers William, Joseph, George and Robert.

Any help would be very much appreciated.n :-)


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 16:45

Welcome to the boards, Kim.

1911 for our reference:

Bella Dawson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Bella Dawson
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Gateshead, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Gateshead
Country: England
Street Address: 55 Fullerton Place Gateshead
Marital status: Single
Occupation: General Servent
Registration District Number: 557
Sub-registration District: Heworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 30409
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dawson 50
Mary Dawson 44
Bella Dawson 21
Annie Dawson 15
Sarah Dawson 7
Florance Dawson 4
Willie Dawson 13
Joe Dawson 11
George Dawson 9
Robert Dawson 2
Elizabeth Dawson 18
Mary Jane Dawson 23


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 16:50

if you were to buy their birth certs to find out their exact DOBs, we might be able to find them in 1939, or their deaths.

Although their births were registered in 1890 and 1907, Isabella and Florence may have been born at the end of 1889 and 1906 respectively.


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 16:53

Annie Dawson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Annie Dawson
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1895
Registration Date: Oct 1974[Nov 1974] [Dec 1974]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Gateshead
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 2
Page: 0160


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 17:27

If you look at "Search all member trees" under "Search" at top right of this page, and search for them, you'll see that someone called Wendy has an Isabella 1890 Gateshead in her tree .
Click on "Find out more" to send a message to Wendy and explain your interest

Wendy also has Annie 1895 in her tree - and also Florence 1907 (spelled Florance, as in 1911 ).

Although, it seems to me that as Wendy spells Florence "Florance" as in 1911, she probably hasn't found any more about the sisters than you have.

Someone called "jamjimfos" has the family in their tree on Ancestry - but doesn't have anything after 1911 for any of the three sisters.
And also spells Florence as "Florance".

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Dec 2021 18:10

John Joseph D Moore
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Sedgefield
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 171
Records on Page:
Isabella Dawson
John Joseph D Moore


Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 18:16

Hi. Firstly thank you for all your help :-)

I have already looked at the Annie who died aged 79 in 1974 and Dawson was her married name. Her maiden name was Aldred.

Yes I have messaged Wendy and unfortunately jamjimfos does not have any information I do not already have.


ErikaH Report 22 Dec 2021 18:32

Who registered the deaths of the parents?


Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 18:34

Hi Shirley.
A few people on Ancestry have John J D Moore married to the same Isabella Dawson who is in my tree but I have a feeling that they simply copied from one tree to another as I can find no evidence that this is correct. The Isabella I am researching was born in Gateshead in the March q 1890 while the Isabella Dawson who married John Moore was born September 1890 in Lumley, Co Durham.

John Moore married Isabella Dawson in 1909 and in 1911 they are living in Cox Hoe, Durham whereas the Isabella Dawson I am researching is still living in Gateshead with her family and is listed as single.

Thank you for your reply


Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 18:36

The deaths of their mother Mary Dawson was registered by their oldest daughter Mary Jane Scope.
I do not have the death certificate for William Dawson as yet.


ErikaH Report 22 Dec 2021 18:36

There are two marriages in Gateshead in 1914 for Isabella Dawson - have you followed-through on them? Also, one in 1919


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 18:54

i followed through on those three marriages, and none of them include Kim's Isabella.

The three couples are all on the 1939 Register, and the wives' DOBs can't be hers, even allowing for typical 1939 discrepancies.


Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 19:04

HI. I thought I had replied re the marriages but have no idea where the post went lol.
Yes I had previously checked the records and could not find the Isabella I was checking. Can I just ask did you find a Jabes or Jabez Hall for the 1919 marriage? I could not find one in Gateshead so was also checking James in case it was a transcription error. I had filed this marriage away until i could confirm it one way or another.


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 20:45

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Dawson Isabella Hall Gateshead 10a 2383

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Hall Jabez Dawson Gateshead 10a 2583

The page number has been mistranscribed in Isabella's record . It should be 2583.
I've submitted a postem on FreeBMD.

Isabella Hall
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Isabella Hall
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1894
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 8
Residence Place: Gateshead, Durham, England
Occupation: House Wife At Home
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 313
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: FBOL
Borough: Gateshead
Registration district: 557-2
Inferred Spouse:
Jabez Hall
Inferred Children:
Ralph Hall
Edith Hall
Joseph Hall
Household Members Age
Jabez Hall 43 - stoneman, coal miner (underground)
Isabella Hall 45
Ralph Hall 19
Edith Hall 17
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Joseph Hall 4


Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 21:00

That is great. Thank you very much. Another one I can discount.


Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 21:17

Ok here we go.....

Annie Dawson married John W Donaghey in Gateshead in 1915
Annie Donaghey widow married Arthur A Aldred in 1936 in Gateshead
Annie Aldred married Richard Dawson in Gateshead in 1942

Annie Dawson born 21 July 1895 October 1974 in Gateshead.

Just need to confirm this 100%



ErikaH Report 22 Dec 2021 21:21

Find births of children for MMN

Look for her in 1939


Kim Report 22 Dec 2021 21:25

I have found her in the 1839 under Aldred but her date of birth is 18 June 1895.
This Annie Aldred is later called Dawson though.
I have a lot of ancestors who had inconsistencies on their date of birth over the years so will dig further.


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 21:45

Annie Aldred
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Annie Aldred [Annie Dawson]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1895
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 5
Residence Place: Gateshead, Durham, England
Occupation: House Duties
Line Number: 23
Schedule Number: 96
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: FBPA
Borough: Gateshead
Registration district: 557-2
Household Members Age
Annie Aldred 44
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Phylisis Appleby 74

Aldred is scored out, but no date beside it, so it looks as if the change was because she returned to her maiden name at some point after 1939. (IF this is the right woman )

Or perhaps it was a correction if she was already back to Dawson in 1939, and the fact that she married a Dawson in 1942 may be a coincidence.

1939 says she's widowed, but I suspect that's just for respectability.
There's no sign of Arthurs death 1936-39 (unless he died in Newcastle in 1938, or Uxbridge in 1939, with his middle initial omitted.) - and there's a possible remarriage for him in Gateshead in 1944..


ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2021 22:08

Remember that age stated at death are what the informant thinks is true - and not necessarily correct.