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Jackie

Jackie Report 28 Dec 2021 21:37

I am trying to find this lady and her parents in the census. She was born in 1871 in Kentish Town Camden I think the mothers name is Jackson. Louisa married Augustus Weil in 1895, Regent park Middlesex. He died in 1897, she then married. Henry Charles Oakes born 1862, and they married in 1902 in Wandsworth. I found Ann Elizabeth Jackson that married Alois Philipp Janson in 1867in Pancras district. On the banns of marriage which I found on Ancestry for Louisa and Augustus it has her father as Aloysius Philip Theodore Janson occupation a baker. If anyone can help me find the parents on census or anything about them that would be wonderful. Thank you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 21:44

Have you bought any of the certificates to confirm it’s the lady you are looking at

Jackie

Jackie Report 28 Dec 2021 21:47

No I haven't

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 21:47

Her birth

JANSON, LOUISA CATHERINE JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in ST PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 144

Parents simply because it’s the same reg district and ties with what you found

Marriages Dec 1867
JACKSON Anne Elizabeth Pancras 1b 324
JANSON Alois Philipp Pancras 1b 324

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 21:55

Simply because it’s coming up

Name: Augustus Weil
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1850
Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1895
Marriage Place: St Mark, Regent´s Park, Camden, England
Father:
Ludwig Weil
Spouse:
Louisa Catharine Janson
Register Type: Parish Register


Louisa Catharine Janson
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1871
Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1895
Marriage Place: St Mark, Regent´s Park, Camden, England
Father:
Aloysius Philip Theodore Janson
Spouse:
Augustus Weil
Register Type: Parish Register

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 21:56

Bertha Olive Weil
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Jan 1898
Baptism Place: St Mark, Regent´s Park, Camden, England
Father:
Augustus Weil
Mother:
Louisa Catherine Weil
Register Type: Parish Register



Augustus Weil
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Death Registration Place: Poplar, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Sep 1897
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1c
Page: 449

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 21:59

Looks like her father died in 1899

Alois Philipp Janson
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1899
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1d
Page: 521

Edit

Mother ?


Annie Janson
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1894
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1d
Page: 588


Anne Janson
Birth Date: 1847
Death Date: 27 Mar 1894
Cemetery: Camberwell Old Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Camberwell, London Borough of Southwark, Greater London, England
Has Bio?: N
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218224873/anne-janson

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 22:02

Possible with grandparents or family
1881 census
Louisa C. Janlin ?
[Louisa C. Janson]
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where Born: Kentish Town, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 25 Quadrant Grove
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration District: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 214
Folio: 108
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Jackson 69
Anne Jackson 58
Martha Jackson 32
Thomas C. Jackson 24
Arthur M. Jackson 20
Louisa C. Janson 9
John Dixon 36

Jackie

Jackie Report 28 Dec 2021 22:07

Oh will have a look thank you very much Shirley for looking .

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 22:08

1901 census

Louisa Weil
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Search Photos: Search for 'St Pancras' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: St Pancras
Sub-registration District: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 154
Folio: 14
Page Number: 20
Household Schedule Number: 160
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Jackson 49
Louisa Weil 29
Maud Jansen 14 niece
Leonard Weil 4
Olive Weil 3

Birth
WEIL, LEONARD CECIL JANSON
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 685

WEIL, BERTHA OLIVE JANSON
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 6

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Dec 2021 22:12

EDIT:

NO this isn't the right man.
See the correct 1891 posted on 29 Dec at 13:35.


???
Philip Jansen
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Philip Jansen
Gender: Male
Age: 50
Relationship: Servant
Birth Year: 1841
Birth Place: Casell, Germany
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Kennington St James Church
Residence Place: Lambeth, London, England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Kennington First
ED, Institution or Vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Piece: 398
Folio: 93
Household Members Age Relationship
George Willer 29 Head - baker, Germany
Philip Jansen 50 Servant - married
Chas Warwick 20 Servant
Fanny Braslow 37 Servant


Jackie

Jackie Report 28 Dec 2021 22:25

Thank you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 22:37

A brother

Aloyaius Leonard H
Country England
Last name Janson
Volume 1D
Birth quarter 4
Page 939
Birth year 1888
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Jackson
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Camberwell
Subcategory Civil Births
County London
Collections from Great Britain, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Dec 2021 22:44

Martha Augusta Janson
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1873
Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1893
Marriage Place: Walworth Common, Southwark, England
Father:
Philip Janson baker
Spouse:
Charles William Robert Smith
Register Type: Parish Register


Philip janson was a witness on the cert


Name: Philip Janson
Electoral Date: 1891
Street Address: 67 Tilson road
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell North
County or Borough: Southwark, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Dec 2021 23:04

Birth of the niece listed in 1901 census for Louisa Weil:

JANSEN, MAUD mmn MILLARD
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 133


EDIT:

On second thoughts, she's more likely to be Agnes Maud Janson (mmn Jackson) , born 1886 Camberwell (which includes Peckham, which is given as Maud's birthplace on 1901 census)

Agnes Maud's birth posted in my next post.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Dec 2021 10:53

For info..............

The FREE site being used to provide birth registration details

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Dec 2021 13:03

Birth of Martha, whose marriage Shirley posted:

JANSON, MARTHA AUGUSTINE mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in ST PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 182

Other siblings??

JANSON, FRANCES GERTRUDE mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 842

JANSON, MAY mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 801
[Died 1880 Camberwell]

JANSON, AGNES MAUD mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 951

[Agnes Maud is likely to be the Maud in 1901 census with Louisa Weil ]

JANSON, EDITH AMELIA mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 958

JANSON, ALOYSIUS LEONARD HERCULES mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 939

Aloysius married Ethel Elizabeth Bridgman in 1912 in Edmonton.
He died in 1916. He's just Leonard on his WW1 army records and at school:

Leonard Janson
in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
Name: Leonard Janson
Gender: Male
Age: 5
Birth Date: 30 Sep 1888
Admission Date: 26 Feb 1894
School: Cator Street School
Father: Phillip Janson
Notes: Cator Street School (0533) opened in 1881. Closed or reorganised in 193-

Address: 17 Pitt Street.

Elizabeth Trendell is at 17 Pitt Street in 1895 per ER, and George Phillips in 1893.
I don't see 17 Pitt Street listed in 1894.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Dec 2021 13:25

Frances Gertrude in 1901:

Frances Janson
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Frances Janson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Peckham, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Southwark
Sub-registration District: St Mary, Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors:
Piece: 384
Folio: 30
Page Number: 1
Household Schedule Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Hare 32
Frances Janson 19

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Dec 2021 13:35

Phillip Ianson
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Phillip Ianson
Gender: Male
Age: 51
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1840
Spouse:
Annie Ianson
Child:
Martha Ianson
Louisa Ianson
Charles Ianson
Gertrude Ianson
Edith Ianson
Maud Ianson
Aloysuis Ianson
Birth Place: Germany
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Residence Place: East Dulwich, Camberwell, London, England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Camberwell
ED, Institution or Vessel: 33
Neighbors:
Piece: 471
Folio: 19
Household Members Age Relationship
Phillip Ianson 51 Head - baker
Annie Ianson 44 Wife - Middlesex
Martha Ianson 17 Daughter
Louisa Ianson 23 Daughter
Charles Ianson 14 Son
Gertrude Ianson 10 Daughter
Edith Ianson 7 Daughter
Maud Ianson 5 Daughter
Aloysuis Ianson 5 Son



Charles's birth:

JANSON, PHILIP CHARLES GEORGE mmn JACKSON
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 167

He married Annie Elizabeth Davies in 1907, had two sons; was living in Fulham in 1911, died in Romford 1956.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Dec 2021 14:02

Edith's marriage ?

Edith Amelia Janson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edith Amelia Janson
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Fylde
Volume: 8e
Page: 1590
Records on Page:
Name
Edith Amelia Janson
Harry Yates


Births of daughter, and possible son:

YATES, EDITH VICTORIA mmn JANSON
GRO Reference: 1913 J Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 1211

YATES, ARTHUR JACK mmn JANSON
GRO Reference: 1914 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 932


There are lots of travel records for Arthur Jack:
For example:

Arthur J Yates
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Arthur J Yates
Arrival Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1915
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date: 28 Sep 1934
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Yokohama; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said; Malta; Marseilles; Gibraltar and Tangier Official
Ship Name: Ranpura
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 148119

Travelling with sister Edith V.
Arthur's address is : Royal Agricultural College, Cirencester.
Edith's address is: The "Maynard", Exeter, Devon.