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grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 16:39

I have Elizabeth Jackson dau of William and Dorothy

She was bapt 10.10.1841 Ambleside Westmorland

In 1851 census she appears with her parents at Chapel Hill, Ambleside.

I don't have her in '61 or '71 census

She marries Thomas Pennington 28.5.1874 in Ambleside then they move to Dalton in Furness where they live out their lives.

Can some kind person look up the '61 and '71 please? I've failed with familysearch.

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Jan 2022 16:54

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Eller How & School, Ellerigg, Ambleside Above Stock, Kendal, Westmorland, England
View original record
Household members (8 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Anne J Clough Head
Unmarried Female 41 1820 School mistress Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Louisa Crofton Boarder
Unmarried Female 60 1801 Lady reading London, Middlesex, England
Selina Healey Governess
Unmarried Female 21 1840 Teacher Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Jane Wilkinson Governess
Unmarried Female 21 1840 Teacher Heversham, Westmorland, England
Frances S Bellasis Boarder
- Female 11 1850 Scholar -
Flora Bellasis Boarder
- Female 8 1853 Scholar -
Catherine Kanber Servant
Unmarried Female 25 1836 House maid Oxfordshire, England
Elizabeth Jackson Servant
Unmarried Female 19 1842 General servant Ambleside, Westmorland, England -----------

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 31 Jan 2022 16:54

Maybe?


Elizabeth Jackson in 1861
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Eller How & School, Ellerigg, Ambleside Above Stock, Kendal, Westmorland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Anne J Clough Head Unmarried Female 41 1820 School mistress Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Louisa Crofton Boarder Unmarried Female 60 1801 Lady reading London, Middlesex, England
Selina Healey Governess Unmarried Female 21 1840 Teacher Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Jane Wilkinson Governess Unmarried Female 21 1840 Teacher Heversham, Westmorland, England
Frances S Bellasis Boarder - Female 11 1850 Scholar -
Flora Bellasis Boarder - Female 8 1853 Scholar -
Catherine Kanber Servant Unmarried Female 25 1836 House maid Oxfordshire, England
Elizabeth Jackson Servant Unmarried Female 19 1842 General servant Ambleside, Westmorland, England

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 17:04

Thank you both, that sounds right.

If the 1881 turns up for Elizabeth and Thomas Pennington, what is the address in Dalton in Furness please?

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Jan 2022 17:11

is this them 1911

Name: Thomas Pennington
Age in 1911: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stavely-in-Cartmel, Lancaster, England
Civil Parish: Dalton in Furness
Search Photos: Search for 'Dalton in Furness' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Queens Terrace Dalton
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Railway Platelayer
Registration District Number: 481
Sub-registration District: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 25635
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Pennington 67
Elizabeth Pennington 72 ------ Rushland, Lancaster, England


grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 17:12

Yes, that's them, maddie.

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Jan 2022 17:17

Name: Elizabeth Pennington
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Thomas Pennington
Gender: Female
Where Born: Rusland, Lancashire, England ------------
Civil Parish: Dalton in Furness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Queen Terrace
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration District: Ulverston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 4282
Folio: 54
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Pennington 36
Elizabeth Pennington 42
William Pennington 6
Samuel Pennington 4


not born ambleside

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Jan 2022 17:24

??
Baptism: 28 Apr 1844 Holy Trinity, Colton, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Jackson - Daughter of Ann Jackson, Spinster
Abode: Bouth
Baptised by: M. Forrest, Offg. Minister
Register: Baptisms from the Bishop's Transcripts 1838 - 1870, Page 11, Entry 87
Source: LDS Film 1040302

RUSLAND, a chapelry in Colton parish, Lancashire; 5½ miles S by W of Hawkshead, and 8 N N E of Ulverston r. station.

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 17:33

1874 marriage cert says dau of William, farmer. 1871 census says William is an ag lab. in Ambleside.

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Jan 2022 17:46

is this their marriage
Name: Elizabeth Jackson
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1874
Marriage Place: Dalton In Furness, Lancashire, England
Spouse:
Thomas Pennington
FHL Film Number: 1471900
Reference ID: 2:3X6QFDD

kendal one

Name: Thomas Pennington
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Kendal
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Westmorland
Volume: 10b
Page: 1192
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Graves
Elizabeth Jackson -----------
John Cummings Lister
Thomas Pennington --------

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 18:58

My cert is for Ambleside, 28.5.1874. Maybe it's the wrong one?

No, it must be right. He is from Roose near Barrow, and she is from Ambleside.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2022 22:35

Just for our reference:


If you've got the right Elizabeth, her father's not a farmer in 1851:

Elizabeth Jackson
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Jackson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Jackson
Mother's Name: Dorthy Jackson
Gender: Female
Where Born: Ambleside, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Ambleside
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Kendal
Sub-registration District: Ambleside
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 110
Piece: 2441
Folio: 63
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jackson 39 - chaise driver
Dorthy Jackson 33
Elizabeth Jackson 10
Joseph Jackson 7
Mary Jackson 4
William Jackson 1


Not in 1861 either:

William Jackson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: William Jackson
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Dorathy Jackson
Gender: Male
Where Born: Patterdale, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Ambleside Above Stock
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration District: Kendal
Sub-registration District: Ambleside
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 165
Piece: 3963
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jackson 48 - chaise driver
Dorathy Jackson 41
Mary Jackson 13
William Jackson 11
Jane Jackson 9
James Jackson 7
Thompson Jackson 4
Dorathy A Jackson 0
Thomas Longmire 22
Martin Corcoran 66


But by 1871 he's a farm labourer:

William Jackson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Jackson
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Patterdale, Westmorland, England
Civil parish: Ambleside Above Stock
Ecclesiastical parish: Ambleside
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Ambleside
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 5277
Folio: 20
Page number: 33
Household Members Age Relationship
William Jackson 59 Head
Dorothy Jackson 52 Wife
James Jackson 17 Son
Thompson Jackson 14 Son
Dora A Jackson 10 Daughter
Mary Sewell 24 Daughter
Sarah J Sewell 2 Granddaughter


By 1881, at the age of 69, he's a mason's labourer!

William Jackson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William Jackson
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Dorothy Jackson
Gender: Male
Where Born: Patterdale, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Ambleside
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street Address: Chapel Hill
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Masons Labourer
Registration District: Kendal
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 5206
Folio: 14
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jackson 69 - mason's labourer
Dorothy Jackson 62
James Jackson 27

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 22:38

Thanks AG, that's what I thought too.. Couldn't decide on a career?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2022 22:46

1891 census to follow on from the 1881 posted by Maddie - birth still said to be Lancashire.
But Hawkshead is in Cumbria, and about 5 miles from Ambleside:

Elizabeth Pennington
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Pennington
Gender: Female
Age: 52
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1839
Spouse:
Thomas Pennington
Child:
Samuel Pennington
Birth Place: Hawkshead, Lancashire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil parish: Dalton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Residence Place: Dalton, Dalton, Lancashire, England
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub registration district: Dalton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 3479
Folio: 95
Household Members Age Relationship
Thomas Pennington 46 Head
Elizabeth Pennington 52 Wife
Samuel Pennington 14 Son

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2022 22:56

Birth 1838:

JACKSON, ELIZABETH mmn THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in PENRITH UNION Volume 25 Page 105


Parents' marriage:

William Jackson
in the Archdeaconry of Richmond, England, Church of England Marriage Bonds, 1611-1861
Name: William Jackson [chaise driver ]
Gender: Male
Marriage Bond Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1818
Marriage Bond Date: 22 Mar 1839
Marriage Bond Place: Westmorland, England
Spouse: Dorothy Thompson
Parish as it Appears: Ambleside

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2022 22:59

??

Elizabeth Jackson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Jackson
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: 1838
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Rusland, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Ambleside
Ecclesiastical parish: Ambleside
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Ambleside
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 185
Piece: 5277
Folio: 45
Page number: 37
Household Members Age Relationship
Frances A Ridgwary 53 Head
Mary E Pigot 43 Visitor
Elizabeth Jackson 33 Servant
Hannah Nicholson 21 Servant

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 23:23

Hawkshead was in Lancashire pre-1974.

Ambleside has never been in Lancashire, as far as I know.

In 1841 census the parents and first child seem to be in Grasmere. Elizabeth was baptised later in the year, born after the census. Plenty of opportunity for the family to be living elsewhere, or Elizabeth born at a relatives house?

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 23:30

The 1838 birth is accurate, she died 1.6.1924 age 86 in Ulverston (district), still lived in Dalton as far as I know.

grannyfranny

grannyfranny Report 31 Jan 2022 23:46

I think there's more than 1 family here.

Those parents William Jackson and Dorothy Thompson, married 1839, listed in the 1841 census with 1 son b maybe 1839.

I have a baptism recorded for an Elizabeth Jackson 10.10.1841 in Ambleside.

Will have another look tomorrow, my head is hurting now!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Feb 2022 11:01

The date of Elizabeth's baptism isn't necessarily an indication of her birth year.
Children were often baptised several years after their birth - sometimes as a job lot with siblings.

Did you notice the possible 1871 census I posted for Elizabeth?

The William who married Dorothy Thompson is definitely Elizabeth's father - he's a chaise driver at marriage, as in the 1851 and 1861 censuses - and of course Elizabeth's with them in 1851.



John Jackson
in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name: John Jackson
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 6 Oct 1839
Christening Place: Ambleside, Westmorland, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Father: William Jackson
Mother: Dorothy Jackson


???
JACKSON, JOHN mmn THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in KENDAL UNION Volume 25 Page 416

But I don't see Elizabeth 1838 in 1841 - at least not if she's William & Dorothy's daughter.