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Charles Lavelle born 1903-05

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 16 Feb 2022 19:07




Christina Lavelle
1898–1987
BIRTH 1898 • Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire

DEATH 03 JAN 1987 • Wilson Street, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland.

only because of the address match.

also.


Death of half-brother Parick (Paddy)(1895–1971)Lavelle.
03 APR 1971 aged 73, • Woodhall Terrace, Port glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Feb 2022 15:41

If the 1931 Patrick is thought to be the poster’s father, he was barely old enough to be having relations legally

He'd have been only 16 when the child was born, and probably only 15 at the time of conception

Maddie

Maddie Report 6 Feb 2022 14:25

the 1931 patrick may have married 1955 port glasgow

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Feb 2022 09:13

The 1931 Port Glasgow birth certainly seems very likely to be Charles's son, with the other births posted by Maddie (yesterday at 15:46) as his siblings.

Combining that with the fairly unusual surname, and the coincidence of address, it does look promising.

It won't prove that he's your father - but the odds look good.
Good luck!

Patrick

Patrick Report 5 Feb 2022 22:15

Thank you for your message

I was born 1947 Patrick Lavelle in Port Glasgow and i was put in a children's home when i was 3 months old, i had been trying to find my parents for many years i eventually found relatives on my mothers side who knew nothing about me and my mum had passed. My fathers name is Patrick Lavelle but that is all i know i have no date or place of birth.

Recently i found that Charles Lavelle 1903 was living at 4 Wilson Street Port Glasgow in the early 40's that just happens to be where i was born which makes me think there is a connection so i am trying to find out if he had a son called Patrick so far i have ruled out all Patrick Lavelle's except one which i am waiting for his birth certificate he would more than likely be child of his first marriage.

My parents never got married so it has not made my search very easy at all, i am looking at Charles Lavelle 1903 possibly being an uncle or maybe even my Grandfather.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2022 17:17

Get your father’s birth cert……or any of the relevant certs

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Feb 2022 16:55

His birth - you can view the image of the cert if you buy credits on SP - that will show you both parents' names and the date and place of their marriage:

LAVELLE
CHARLES
M
1903
574/ 214

You've also been given his marriage and death, and don't seem to need any info about his ancestry.
What else do you hope to find out about him?


There are 30 Lavelle births 1957-62 in Renfrewshire, but none in Port Glasgow.
You would have to buy the birth certs for all of them, at £12 each, to know if any of them were Charles's children.

If there were children from the second marriage, none of them have died in Scotland.

It looks like you may be a son of the first marriage, in which case you won't need any info about siblings. [EDIT: - Ignore last sentence - got mixed up with the generations.]


Patrick

Patrick Report 5 Feb 2022 16:28

I have the other marriage. I have been looking for my father for many years but have had no luck until now i have info that Charles Lavelle born 1903/4 lived in the same building that i was born in Port Glasgow and could possibly be my Grandfather. I have messaged members who have him on their trees but got nothing back.

Most of the info you have given me i already have but thanks for your time.

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Feb 2022 15:46

possibles
LAVELLE

PATRICK


M

1931

574/ 126

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

THOMAS


M

1931

574/ 180

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

ROBERT MACAULAY


M

1932

574/ 319

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

PATRICK


M

1933

574/ 262

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

HUGH QUIGLEY


M

1934

574/ 428

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

MARY MURRAY


F

1934

574/ 225

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

CHRISTINA


F

1936

574/ 116

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

CHARLES


M

1937

574/ 44

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

JANE SINCLAIR


F

1937

574/ 129

Port Glasgow

Order Certificate
LAVELLE

MARGARET


F

1939

574/ 297

Port Glasgow

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Feb 2022 15:43

an earlier marriage maybe
LAVELLE

CHARLES

MCAULEY

ELIZABETH

1930

574/ 107

Port Glasgow

LAVELLE

ELIZABETH

33


1942

574/ 105

Port Glasgow

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2022 15:33

His wife was over 30 years his junior IF the marriage is the correct Charles

You need the cert

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Feb 2022 15:33

there are several possibles born in greenock 1957 - 1965 but you will need credits for scotland people
cant see any for port of glasgow

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2022 15:14

I gave you his marriage and death

No other info is available for Scotland...check SP yourself

EDITED

Get his death cert for informant's details
Get the marriage cert to see if he was a bachelor
If not, look for an earlier marriage on SP
Contact the members who have him in GR trees

Patrick

Patrick Report 5 Feb 2022 15:12

Maddie.

Thank you for your reply this is quite possibly him i really need some info on charles ie did he have any children?

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Feb 2022 15:10

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Charles
Archive Modern Records Centre
Last name Lavelle
Archive reference MSS.192/BM/2/2/10
Birth year -
Title Registration Book
Admission year 1904
Dates 1901-1906
Age 28
Information contained Members 62727-69359
Trade Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders
No of volumes 1
Union name United Society Of Boilermakers & Iron Shipbuilders
Record set Britain, Trade Union Membership Registers
Union branch Port Glasgow 2
Category Education & work
Union branch as transcribed Port Glasgow 2
Subcategory Guild & Trade Associations
County Renfrewshire
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Country Scotland

Patrick

Patrick Report 5 Feb 2022 15:07

ErikaH

Thank you but i have all that information, i am looking more for Charles who was 7 on that list.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2022 15:06

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
42, High Street, Abbey, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland

Patrick Lavell Head Married Male 37 1834 Foundry lab Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Christina D Lavell Wife Married Female 38 1833 - Stewarton, Ayrshire, Scotland
James Lavell Son Unmarried Male 18 1853 Foundry lab Stranraer, Wigtownshire, Scotland
Patrick Lavell Son - Male 4 1867 - Arrochar, Argyllshire, Scotland
Charles Lavell Son - Male 2 1869 - Houston, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Lavell Daughter - Female 13 1858 Flax mill worker Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Isabella Dickson Mother-in-law Widow Female 78 1793 - Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary Sharp Boarder Unmarried Female 30 1841 Flax mill worker Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Feb 2022 15:05

Carolus
Denomination Roman Catholic
Last name Lavelle
Residence -
Age 85
County Renfrewshire
Birth year 1869
Country Scotland
Death year 1954
Archive The Scottish Catholic Archives
Death date 14 May 1954
Reference MP/560/1/5/1
Burial year 1954
Record set Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Burials
Burial place Port Glasgow
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Parish Holy Family
Subcategory Parish Burials
Diocese Paisley

Scotland, Modern And Civil Births 1855-2019
Place Port Glasgow
First name(s) Charles
Mother's first name(s) Christina
Gender Male
Mother's last name Dixon
Last name Lavelle
Father's first name(s) Patrick
Birth year 1869
Father's last name Lavelle
Birth place Port Glasgow,Renfrew,Scotland
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
County Renfrewshire
Subcategory Civil Births
Country Scotland

Maddie

Maddie Report 5 Feb 2022 15:00

parents
LAVELLE

CHARLES

MURRAY

MARY

1891

574/ 17

Port Glasgow

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Ardgowan Street, Port-Glasgow, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Lavelle Head
Married Male 31 1870 Labourer in shipyard Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary Lavelle Wife
Married Female 31 1870 - Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mary Lavelle Daughter
Single Female 13 1888 Scholar Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Maggie Lavelle Daughter
- Female 8 1893 Scholar Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Patrick Lavelle Son
- Male 6 1895 Scholar Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Christina Lavelle Daughter
- Female 1 1900 - Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Feb 2022 14:56

LAVELLE
CHARLES
MURRAY
MARY
1891...........1st January
574/ 17
Port Glasgow


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LAVELLE
CHARLES
M
1869
574/ 151
Port Glasgow