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1939 census search please

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Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 09:46

Good morning all,
Is anyone free to search the 1939 census please?

I'm looking for my great nan Vera Annie May Gates nee Biffin - born 1906 - Southampton. She sometimes just went by Anne. She should be living with her husband Lorance Basil George Gates born 1904 and their children in Southampton.

If possible I would like to know the address they were living at and who was listed as living there and occupations too.

Many thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2022 09:53

142 Waberham Lane

The couple - plus one named child, Donald E 11/3/1935
Four closed records

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 09:54

If it helps children are Alan, Leslie, Patricia, Donald and John :-)

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 09:58

Can you please advise how their names are listed on the census report and their full details please including occupations etc. Also whether my grandad Alan Paul Gates born 1925, Southampton is listed with them as I can't find him.

Sorry also can address be checked please as I never heard of that place in Southampton and cannot find it on google.
Many thanks, much appreciated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2022 10:00

I have given you the names that are listed - the others are CLOSED records, as already stated, which means their deaths have not been picked up

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 10:04

Hi Erika

Sorry I mean can you let me know how Vera and Lorance's names are actually stated/listed on the census as I like to record how they list themselves (as they seem to like changing their names around often on records) Hope that makes sense.
Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2022 10:08

Lorance Motrin and Box Spring Maker 1/2/1904
Anne M. Unpaid domestic duties 30/1/1906

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 10:11

Thank you. That's great. :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Mar 2022 10:38

transcript of the image
Donald E Gates in 1939
1939 Register
142 Waberham Lane, Southampton, Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England

Lorence Gates 01 Feb 1904 Male Motrin & Box Spring Maker Married 139 1
Anne M Gates 30 Jan 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 139 2

The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.
Donald E Gates 11 Mar 1935 Male Under School Age Single 139 6

The record for this person is officially closed.


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2022 10:39

Tks, Maddie. I’m on iPad and can’t C&P

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 10:42

Thank you both. Really appreciate your help. Just don't understand where their oldest son Alan Paul Gates born 1925 (my grandad is)

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 13 Mar 2022 10:59

Apart from assuming the child redacted after Donald's entry is the youngest there is no way of knowing who the earlier two are. So Alan is not neccessarily the one not at home.

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 11:08

Would it be at all possible for someone to send me a screen shot/photo of the report showing the address listed as Waberham Lane, Southampton at all please? It is not listed on the Kelly's Street directory for 1939/40 and shows nothing on google either. I'm therefore wondering if its a possible mistranscribed.

Many thanks, Sarah

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 11:11

namelessone, ah I see. Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2022 11:27

Alan died in 1987

Take out a 14-day free trial with FMP and look at the info yourself

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Mar 2022 11:37

Don't know what namelessone sent you so -

Having looked at the previous page, that is transcribed as Waterhouse Lane. The writing is not the best, but that page continues to the one on which the family you're interested in and you can see how the transcriber has made Waberham out of the word (though not if it was the same person transcribing both pages!)

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Mar 2022 11:44

You say "If it helps children are Alan, Leslie, Patricia, Donald and John"

Maddie posted -
Lorence Gates 01 Feb 1904 Male Motrin & Box Spring Maker Married 139 1
Anne M Gates 30 Jan 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 139 2

The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.
Donald E Gates 11 Mar 1935 Male Under School Age Single 139 6

The record for this person is officially closed.

There is one open record for Donald and 4 closed ones, so probable (but not certain) that those 4 are Alan, Leslie, Patricia and John.

Otherwise - maybe his death just hasn't been picked up?

If you get a copy of the death certificate you should be able to get the record opened.

Maddie

Maddie Report 13 Mar 2022 11:48

is this a son but not on 1939 reg
Leslie B
Country England
Last name Gates
Volume 2C
Birth quarter 4
Page 59
Birth year 1929
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Biffin
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Southampton
Subcategory Civil Births
County Hampshire

Mr
Geo direction South East
First name(s) Leslie
Postcode area SO
Last name Gates
Postcode district SO40
Sex Male
Postcode sector SO40 2
Age 83
County Hampshire
Birth year 1929
Country England
Birth date 06 Sep 1929
Record set England & Wales Deaths 2007-2020
Death year 2012
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death date 13 Jan 2012
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Residence Southampton
Collections from England, Great Britain, Wales
Area Southampton

looks like patricia still living in southamton in 2005 uner her married name

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 11:55

Thank you greyghost, that's very helpful. Now there is a Waterhouse Lane in Southampton and it is very close to a bedding manufacturer listed in Kelly's 1939. I have also just found L Gates at Waterhouse Lane on a Southampton register too so perfect.

That would make sense that Alan's death maybe just wasn't picked up but as we do have a copy of his death I will see if I can get the record open

Thanks again

Solar

Solar Report 13 Mar 2022 12:03

Yes, thank you Maddie. Leslie is a son of theirs too and my late grandad's brother. This extra info about him is great. Thank you