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Joan

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We all try to help so get there in the end lol :-D

Thank you so much Shirley for all this information i cant believe how kind youve been in helping me with all this. i mistakenly put Erikas name thinking she had given me the information so i apologise for my error, Ive just noticed my nanna was born 33 wellington street and funnily enough when shes got older and married my mum was born at number 25 so they never moved far from thier last home by the looks of it..

Mother of Robert 1872, before her marriage:

Elizabeth Mckinlay
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Elizabeth Mckinlay
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: British Subj, American
Parish Number: 606
Civil Parish: Monkton and Prestwick
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Monkton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Post Office
Occupation: Seamstress
ED: 1
Page: 21
Household Schedule Number: 98
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_136
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Mckinlay 20 - British subject, America.
Elizabeth Mckinlay 18
Mary Ninow 2 - Niece, Monkton, Ayrshire.

MCWILLIAM
ROBERT
ELIZABETH MCKINLAY/FR681 (FR681)
28/05/1852
606/
30 398
Monkton and Prestwick


Death of son showing mother's maiden name

MCWILLIAM
ROBERT
43
MCKINLAY
1914
606/ 49
Monkton and Prestwick

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Main Street, Monkton & Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

Robert McWilliam Head Married Male 53 1828 General labourer Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Elizabeth McWilliam Wife Married Female 47 1834 - Canada
William McWilliam Son Unmarried Male 21 1860 Stonecutter Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Jane McWilliam Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1864 Servant domestic Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert McWilliam Son - Male 9 1872 Scholar Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Elizabeth McWilliam Granddaughter - Female 2 1879 - Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kirk Street, Monkton & Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

Robert McWilliam Head Married Male 44 1827 Cotton weaver Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Elizabeith McWilliam Wife Married Female 37 1834 - -
Elizabeith McWilliam Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1853 Silk weaver Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
William McWilliam Son - Male 11 1860 Scholar Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Jane McWilliam Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kirk Street, Monkton, Monkton & Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

Robert McWilliam Head Married Male 33 1828 Silk weaver Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Elizabeth McWilliam Wife Married Female 28 1833 Weaver's wife United States
Elizabeth McWilliam Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1853 - Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Barbra McWilliam Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
William McWilliam Son - Male 1 1860 - Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
West Side of Village, Kirk Street, Monkton, Kyle, Ayrshire, Scotland

William McWilliam Head Married Male 45 1806 Hand loom weaver (cotton) Ireland
Barbara McWilliam Wife Married Female 41 1810 Weavers wife Lanarkshire, Scotland
Robert McWilliam Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Hand loom weaver cotton Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Jean McWilliam Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 Hand loom weaver cotton Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
William McWilliam Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Hand loom weaver cotton Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Janet McWilliam Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1840 Scholar Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Prestwick Proper, Monkton, Ayrshire, Scotland
William McWilliam Male 35 1806 Ireland
Barbara McWilliam Female 30 1811 Scotland
Robert McWilliam Male 13 1828 Ayrshire, Scotland
Jean McWilliam Female 9 1832 Ayrshire, Scotland
William McWilliam Male 5 1836 Ayrshire, Scotland
Janet McWilliam Female 1 1840 Ayrshire, Scotland

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kirk Street, Monkton & Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

Robert McWilliam Head Married Male 63 1828 General labourer Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Elizabeth McWilliam Wife Married Female 57 1834 - Canada
William McWilliam Son Unmarried Male 30 1861 Stone cutter Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert McWilliam Son Unmarried Male 19 1872 Stone cutter Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Lizzie McWilliam Granddaughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland
Robert McWilliam Grandson - Male 7 1884 Scholar Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

Marriage
MCWILLIAM
WILLIAM
SCOTT
MAGGIE
1891
606/ 10
Monkton and Prestwick

Wow thank you so much Shirley,the amount of info youve gave me is amazing,without you and other kind members id of been stuck without all your help.,my beloved brother was also called John Gordon after grandad but he was always known a Gordon too,my grandad did indeed pass before my nanna,he fell downstairs and sadly broke his neck and passed away,no wonder ive not been able to get much info on my nanna she seems to have gone by all names, Jean,Jane,Jeannie and Jennie,and i see my mum was named after my nannas sister Mary.cant thank you enough for your help,as i had put my tree to one side for a while as i didnt seem to get very far,with it,

Wow thank you so much Shirley,the amount of info youve gave me is amazing,without you and other kind members id of been stuck without all your help.,my beloved brother was also called John Gordon after grandad but he was always known a Gordon too,my grandad did indeed pass before my nanna,he fell downstairs and sadly broke his neck and passed away,no wonder ive not been able to get much info on my nanna she seems to have gone by all names, Jean,Jane,Jeannie and Jennie,and i see my mum was named after my nannas sister Mary.cant thank you enough for your help,as i had put my tree to one side for a while as i didnt seem to get very far,with it,

Is it possible he died before Jane ?


Name: John G McWilliam
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: abt 1892
Registration Date: Apr 1956
[May 1956]
[Jun 1956]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Carlisle
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 1a
Page: 66

Think he was actually reg as John Gordon but seems to have used his second name

MCWILLIAM
JOHN GORDON
M
1892
606/ 19
Monkton and Prestwick

Gordon McWilliam
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Gordon McWilliam
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William McWilliam
Mother's Name: Maggie McWilliam
Gender: Male
Where born: Prestwick, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 606
Registration district: Monkton and Prestwick
Civil parish: Monkton and Prestwick
County: Ayrshire
Address: Mansewell Rd 5 Hunte Pl
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 118
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_233
Household Members Age Relationship
William McWilliam
41 Head
Maggie McWilliam
31 Wife
Gordon McWilliam 9 Son
Jeanie McWilliam
6 Daur (Daughter)
Barbara McWilliam
2mths Daur (Daughter)

She is being called Jennie on the 1901 Scottish census

Name: Jennie Christie
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: George Christie
Mother's Name: Helen Christie
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayr, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 578/1
Registration district: Ayr
Civil parish: Ayr
County: Ayrshire
Address: 33 Wellington St
ED: 25A
Household schedule number: 210
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_218
Household Members Age Relationship
George Christie
52 Head
Helen Christie
31 Wife
Hugh Christie
8 Son
William Christie
6 Son
Jennie Christie 3 Daughter
Mary Christie
1 Daughter

I posted the death and their marriage !!

The marriage cert shows his age as 23 a blacksmith father William McWilliam a mason journeyman. Mother Margaret nee Scott

She was Jane Christie aged 18 a laundrey maid. Father George Christie lace weaver mother mother Helen nee McConnachie

The death was on freebmd……….which does not include Scottish records

And I didn’t post it…………

When you manage to register with Scotland's People, you can view and print the image of the birth cert online for the cost of 6 credits.
Minimum purchase of credits - 30 for £7.50.
Cheaper than buying the cert (£12), unless you particularly want to do that.


The death was in England, so you'll have to get the death cert via the GRO site, where you'll also have to register:
https://www.gro.gov.uk

Hi Erika , Sorry I didn’t see it, I was trying to register on Scotland people but for some reason it won’t let me put my name to register so you must of sent the info whilst I was off here. It’s Definetly got to be her as it’s got Christie as her name, didn’t know about the Bryden part though, which is strange as years ago we lived in Brydon close, Salford, Manchester. I’m going to phone tomoro and get both certificates and hopefully the death certificate will help with the medical history side too. Thank you so much for your help, I didn’t think to join Scotland’s people till I realised I was only looking at England and Wales. How sad to think my nan passed in June 1970 when we moved away from Carlisle to Manchester also in the June 1969.

Didn’t you see the death posted above????

You can’t see the info without buying the cert

CHRISTIE
JANE BRYDEN
F
1897
578/1 697
Ayr..

from scotlandspeople of births,




Deaths Jun 1970
MCWILLIAM Jane Bryon About1897 Border 1a 26.--

slight variation of Bryden --Bryon.but look to be the same woman..