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Walsh Ancestry Help

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Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 11:27

Hi
I am trying to find my Walsh ancestry and am not doing very well. I have only reached a marriage dated 31st October 1882 between John Walsh and Amelia Tuby. I know these names to be correct as I remember them being mentioned years ago by my late parents. The marriage certificate states that John Walsh was 25 and a Blacksmith. His father (deceased) also John Walsh eas a Travbeller with Hearn Roundabouts. Amelia Mary Tuby was 23 though I have found her birth record for 1862 which would actually make her 20. Witnesses Nubert O' Hara and Mary Corrigan.

Here are John and Amelia on the 1891 census. I have found nothing before this at present. Thak you for reading this and hope you can help me
Regards Paul

John Walsh
in the 1891 England Census
Name John Walsh
Gender Male
Age 37
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1854
Spouse
Amelia Walsh
Child
Mary Walsh
Ethel Walsh
John Walsh
Birth Place Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish Worksop
Ecclesiastical parish Priory Church
Residence Place Worksop, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Registration district Worksop
Sub registration district Worksop
ED, Institution or Vessel 1
Neighbors
Piece 2643
Folio 6
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Walsh 37 Head
Amelia Walsh
28 Wife
Mary Walsh
6 Daughter
Ethel Walsh
3 Daughter
John Walsh
1 Son
James Walsh
33 Brother
Mary Frith
18 Servant

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 11:28

It is only the Walsh family that I am interested in.
Thank you again :-)

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 11:31

John died in Doncaster in 1921 saying age 66

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 11:52

For INFO only

1921 Census Of England & Wales
37, Marsh Gate, Doncaster, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
John Walsh Head Male 1856 64 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Carter Corporation
Amelia Walsh Wife Female 1862 58 Kirton in Lindsey, Lincolnshire, England Home Duties -
John Walsh Son Male 1890 31 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Carter Corporation
Lily Walsh Daughter Female 1896 25 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Field Hand Coxs
Arthur Walsh Son Male 1902 19 Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Carter Carporation
Mark Walsh Son Male 1906 15 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Apprentice G W R Wagon Shops
James Walsh Son Male 1908 13 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England - -
John Clarkson Grandson Male 1911 10 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 11:56

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
56, Wellington Yard, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
John Walsh Head Married Male 40 1821 ... Ireland
Mary Walsh Wife Married Female 42 1819 ... Ireland
Mary Jones Mother in law Widow Female 75 1786 House keeper Ireland
James Cunigan Son in law Married Male 20 1841 Cloth dresser Ireland
Mary Cunigan Daughter Married Female 17 1844 Factory girl flax Ireland
Ann Walsh Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 ...men Leeds, Yorkshire, England
James Walsh Son Unmarried Male 11 1850 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Betty Walsh Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1851 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Sarah Walsh Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1854 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
John Walsh Son Unmarried Male 5 1856 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England


Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 12:00

Fabulous :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 12:12

Ancestry version of 1861......always allow for mistranscriptions when searching


Name Mary Jones
Gender
[Female]
Age 75
Relation Hepe Mother
[Wifes Mother]
Estimated Birth Year 1786
Where born Ireland
Civil parish Leeds
Town Leeds
County/Island Yorkshire
Country England
Registration district Leeds
Sub-registration district North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel 4
Neighbors View others on page
Household schedule number 72
Piece 3377
Folio 62
Page number 20
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Walsh
40
Head
Mary Walsh
42
Wife
Mary Jones 75 Hepe Mother
James Cunigan
20
Son-in-law
Mary Cunigan
17
Daughter
Ann Welsh
13
Daughter
James Welsh
11
Son
Betty Welsh
10
Daughter
Sarah Welsh
7
Daughter
John Welsh
5
Son

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 12:13

Thank you

I think I have just found 1851 census. Trying to post

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 12:15

John Walsh

in the 1851 England Census

Name John Walsh
Age 28
Estimated Birth Year abt 1823
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Mary Walsh
Gender Male
Where born Ireland
Civil parish Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish Leeds
Town Leeds
County/Island Yorkshire
Country England
Registration district Leeds
Sub-registration district North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel 1d
Neighbors
Household schedule number 96
Piece 2320
Folio 93
Page number 45
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Walsh 28 Head

Mary Walsh 30 Wife
Mary Walsh 7 Daughter
Ann Walsh 5 Daughter
Elizabeth Walsh 3 Mo Daughter
Mary Jones 60 Wife Mother
Michael Jones 22 Lodger
Elizabeth Jones 20 Lodger

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 12:22

So John Walsh Snior and Mary Jones probably born Ireland as elder children born there?

If you could help me search for the 1871 and 1881 censuses prior to John's mariage to Amelia Tuby that would be tremendous.
Thank you for your help so far Erika. I am well pleased

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 12:35

1861 which I posted from FMP clearly states that John snr and Mary, were born in Ireland

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 12:39

What was John's address when he married?

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 12:48

Looks like 4 Off Street, Leeds

I havent been able to find a birth either as yet!

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 12:50

Just googled it. There was an OFF STREET

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 12:56

You're unlikely to find a birth registration - there were no penalties for not registering until 1875

EDITED 13.15

Having said that.....................possibilities ONLY and may simply be coincidence. Need verifying

WELCH, SARAH ANN JONES
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 363

WELCH, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 354

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 12:58

Not at 4 Off Street, Leeds in 1881 :-( :-(

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 13:02

JONES, MARY 77
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 296

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2024 13:23

Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%)
CURRIGAN James Leeds 9b 477
Welsh Mary Leeds 9b 477


??
CURRIGAN, JOHN WELSH
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 424
CURRIGAN, WILLIAM PATRICK WELSH
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in NORTH LEEDS Volume 09B Page 390 Occasional Copy: A

Graham

Graham Report 20 Jan 2024 13:29

I have just gone online and purchased the birth cert image from GRO for the third option that you gave to me.


John Welch 28/7/1856 56 Wellington Yard, Leeds
Father John Welch a Hardware Hawker
Mother Mary Welch formerly Jones

WELL DONE AND THANK YOU
I will focus on the 1871 and 18881 censuses now

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jan 2024 13:34

??
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Wellington Yard, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Conigan Daughter - Female 27 1844 - Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Welch Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Yorkshire, England
Sarah Welch Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Yorkshire, England
William Welch Grandson - Male 8 1863 - Yorkshire, England

Mary married - surname looks more like Corrigan
Elizabeth and Sarah Welch described as daughters not sisters to Mary so ? parents and young John just not there on census night
All 3 girls Flax mill Hands
All born Leeds