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That's the other one I mentioned I couldn’t find

Great work, Kay

Well done, Kay????

Following on from that, here's Emily/Emma's birth:

BARKER, EMILY WILSON mmn CHAPMAN
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 800

Kay????

I think that is our girl!! Joseph BARKER Wilson m Eliza Chapman on 13th April 1903 at Bolsover Parish Church.

Funny though, throughout the Census Collection the 'Barker' name is NEVER used.

Thanks so much for sticking with it.

Interesting………..cert needed.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

BARKER, IVY WILSON CHAPMAN

GRO Reference: 1918 J Quarter in ASHTON UNDER LYNE Volume 08D Page 615

1921 census incorrectly transcribes Ivy’s birthplace as Bolsover, Derbyshire

Original shows it to be Droylsden

The second forename for the Barker child will be on the GRO index

Barker
Ivy W
MNN Chapman.

1918

Reg June .

England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England.

just a theory,

as Joseph Wilson and wife Eliza in 1921 was B Joseph Wilson and B Eliza Wilson and 1921 location was Ashton under Lyne could the above birth entry be the Ivy Wilson,?

Thanks for all this information people. I will pass it on in the morning.

<3 <3

The only thing I can think of with regard to Ivy, having trawled through the GRO myself, is that her Birth Registration was never sent to GRO - wouldn't be the first time I've had that - or she was adopted

I have an Uncle who was unofficially adopted and lived his life under a totally different surname to his Birth.

I think the Ivy Wilson born 7 July 1918, whose death in Derby was posted by Shirley at 17:39, was Ivy Hadland, who married Leonard French Wilson in Hendon in 1940.

Leonard also died in Derby, in 1981.

The address of both, on their probate records, was 105 Berwick Avenue, Chaddesden, Derby.

Date of 1921 census was 19th JUNE

If 1921 census is correct, Ivy was born approx May 1918.

Maybe

Name Ivy Wilson
Death Age 63
Birth Date 7 Jul 1918
Registration Date Oct 1981
[Nov 1981]
[Dec 1981]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Derby
Inferred County Derbyshire
Volume 6
Page 0924

I looked for Ivy birth but it’s not on the gro or freebmd even though she was supposedly born in Derbyshire also mmn chapman

"Think I've sorted Edna May's Marriage out. Arthur Shawcross in 1924 in Ashton and found them in 1939 Register. Mistranscribed as 'Shallanoss' "

Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)
Shallcross Alfred Wilson Ashton 8d 1123 ****************************
Wilson Edna M Shallcross Ashton 8d 1123

Name Alfred Shallcross
Death Age 77
Birth Date 2 Sep 1904
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec 1981
Registration district Tameside
Inferred County Greater Manchester
Volume 39
Page 1659


Name Edna May Shallcross
Death Age 87
Birth Date 18 May 1907
Registration Date Mar 1995
Registration district Manchester
Inferred County Greater Manchester
Register Number I52B
District and Subdistrict 0061I
Entry Number 34


Daughter

SHALLCROSS, JOYCE GLORIA WILSON
GRO Reference: 1931 M Quarter in ASHTON UNDER LYNE Volume 08D Page 926


SAXTON, JOYCE GLORIA 1930
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2019 in TAMESIDE (014-1C) Entry Number 518941573

Son

SHALLCROSS, EDWIN JOHN WILSON
GRO Reference: 1924 S Quarter in ASHTON UNDER LYNE Volume 08D Page 677

Friend has just found Eliza's Birth Certificate out.

3rd October 1884 is the Date given

So on that basis searched for a possible re-marriage in Ashton.

Walker, Frank - 1928 in Ashton. Living in Droylsden, Lancashire in 1939.

Then to Ginnever, David - 1947 in Chesterfield

Death - Ginnever, Eliza Birth abt 1885, -Year - 1951 in Chesterfield, Derbyshire.

:-D

Ivy is 3yrs 1month in June 1921

NO obvious record of Ivy's birth - I would have posted it along with the others

Ditto Emily/Emma

Check yourself on freebmd and the GRO index

Marriages Dec 1950 (>99%)
Beaumont Kathleen Neech Gloucester R. 7b 841
Neech William T Beaumont Gloucester Rural 7b 841

Marriages Dec 1959 (>99%)
BAGULEY James W NEECH Manchester 10e 622
NEECH Kathleen BAGULEY Manchester 10e 622

BAGULEY, KATHLEEN 1929
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2003 in MANCHESTER (0061A) Reg A68B Entry Number 112

Argyll Gran

Yes, she would really appreciate any information on this branch of the family.

Think I've sorted Edna May's Marriage out. Arthur Shawcross in 1924 in Ashton and found them in 1939 Register. Mistranscribed as 'Shallanoss'

Looks like Harriet married James Pearson in 1934 in Ashton.

It's just Eliza's Death and Ivy's Birth, ?Marriage/Death I'm stuck on now.