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Hi. I'm looking for a marriage record for Elizabeth/ Lizzie andHenry/Harry.
They had two children born in Ontario. Albert Henry born 1906 and William Ernest born 1908. I do know when William married his address was 189 Danforth Road,
Toronto. I know these are the correct people as I found the same address for Elizabeth in a bible owned by another relative. Elizabeth was born 1885 in Cleethorpes. The grave I found does have her DOB a month out but I'm pretty sure it's her. Death 2nd May 1951. TIA
Jen

Aren’t these records held by the Ontario Archives?

According to their website they are in ‘partnership’ with Ancestry.

I found them on Familysearch website.

No marriage for Elizabeth and Harry showing up on Ancestry.

The other records mentioned are on Ancestry.

Do you have Harry's death/burial?

Harry J. Roberts
in the Canada, Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current
Name Harry J. Roberts
Birth Date 18 Feb 1883
Death Date 1 Jul 1957
Cemetery St. John's Norway Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place The Beaches, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio? N
Spouse
Elizabeth Roberts
Children
Albert H. Roberts



Elizabeth Roberts
in the Canada, Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current
Name Elizabeth Roberts
Maiden Name Harper
Birth Date 23 Feb 1885
Death Date 2 May 1951
Death Place Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Cemetery St. John's Norway Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place The Beaches, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio? N
Spouse
Harry J. Roberts
Children
Albert H. Roberts

When did Elizabeth emigrate?

Harry Joseph Ruberts
Ontario, Canada, Marriages,
1826-1943 >
Marriage & Divorce

I found this on Ancestry but can’t access it.

I don’t know when she emigrated.

I have the burial details for Harry and child.

Elizabeth Roberts
in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1953
Name Elizabeth Roberts [Elizabeth Harper]
Gender Female
Race English
Death Age 66
Birth Date 23 Jan 1885
Birth Place England
Death Date 2 May 1951
Death Place Toronto, York
Father
Robert Harper
Mother
Jane Harper [ nee Blood ]
Spouse
Harry Roberts
Certificate Number 016820

In case you didn't pick this up from Family Search

From Ancestry - son Albert H born 24 June 1906, died 11 Oct 1915
Buried with parents St John's Norway Cemetery and crematorium, The Beaches, Toronto Municipality, Ontario. Plot 6-2-17/19

There's an obit for Elizabeth too

1931 census says that both Harry and Elizabeth immigrated to Canada in 1904.

Harry Roberts
in the 1931 Census of Canada
Name Harry Roberts
Gender Male
Nationality Canadian
Racial Origin English
Marital Status Married
Age 49
Estimated Birth Year abt 1882 [abt 1882]
Birth Place England
Immigration Date 1904
Residence Date 1931
Street Address 189 Dadarst Rd
Home in 1931 Scarborough, Ontario, Canada
Relation to Head Head
Father Birth Place England
Mother Birth Place England
Can Speak English Yes
Can Speak French No
Language Spoken as Mother Tongue English
Religion Anglican
Can Read and Write W
Months at School No
Occupation Truck driver
Industry Print Stational
Class of Worker Wage or salary worker
Income 1040
At Work on June 1st 1931 Yes
Other Causes Out of Work N
House Number 118
Family Number 127
Municipality Scarboro
Enumeration District York South
Sub-District Scarborough (Township)
Sub-District Number 0009 - Scarborough (Township)
Home Ownership O
Value of House 1200
Class of House Single House
Materials of Construction Wood
Number of Rooms 3
Owned Radio No
Household Members (Name) Age Relation to Head
Harry Roberts 49 Head
Elizabeth Roberts 48 Wife

That’s brilliant. Thank you. Any reason why they would get her DOB incorrect on headstone?

The record you mention for Harry Joseph RUBERTS, is actually the son William's marriage record, on which Harry is named.

William Ernest Roberts
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1943
Name William Ernest Roberts
Gender Male
Age 18
Birth Date abt 1908
Birth Place Ontario
Marriage Date 14 Aug 1926
Marriage Place York, Ontario, Canada
Spouse
Conscan Evsoll
Father Harry Joseph Ruberts <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother Elizabeth Harper

Can you post the obit for Elizabeth please?

Wrong DOB on headstone would just be what the stonemason was told - unless perhaps he made a mistake, and the family couldn't afford or be bothered to have it changed..

The correct DOB is on her death cert.

ROBERTS. Elizabeth Harper Toronto General hospital on Wednesday May 2 1951. Elizabeth Harper in her 67th year, beloved wife of Harry J Roberts. 118 McGill St. Toronto and dear Mother of William Roberts. St Catherines. Resting at the William Sherwin funeral home, 873 Kingston Rd Toronto. Service in the chapel on Saturday at 2.30 pm. Interment St John's cemetery, Norway.

Will attempt to send via PM

Although 1931 census says Harry emigrated in 1904, when he travelled to New York in 1912 he said he'd lived in Canada since 1902.

Harry J Roberts
in the Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name Harry J Roberts
Gender Male
Race English
Marital Status Married
Arrival Age 29
Birth Date abt 1883 [abt 1883]
Birth Place England
Arrival Date 18 Sep 1912
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Final Destination Toronto
Ship Caronia
Occupation Hannesmaker [ Harness maker ]

Said he'd lived in Canada for 10 years, 1902-12.

?
Return from a trip back to England
With Elizabeth aged 62.
Harry shown as a Leather worker.
Last address in UK shown as Shortlands, Woodmancote, Dursley, Glos

Name Harry J Roberts
Gender Male
Departure Age 64
Birth Date abt 1883
[abt 1883]
Departure Date 2 Aug 1947
Departure Port England
Ship Name Aquitania
Shipping Line Cunard White Star Limited
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Destination Port Halifax, Canada
Master G G Cove

1939 Register for that Dursley address -
1939 Register
"shortlands" Woodmancote, Dursley, Dursley R.D., Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
~??? Roberts 21 Jan 1862 Male Hotel Porter (Retired) Widowed 21 1
Gertrude M Roberts 16 Mar 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 21 2
Lilian H Roberts 18 Jan 1885 Female Worsted Cloth Weave Single 21 3

The first name of the 1862 DOB is barely visible where marks are on the paper, but possibly Henry J

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Long Street, Dursley, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Henry Roberts Head Male 1862 59 Wotton under Edge, Gloucestershire, England Hotel Porter George Ayliffe Hotel Propietor
Lilian Roberts Daughter Female 1887 34 Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Cloth Weaver Hant & Winterlotham Cloth Manf Out Of Work
Gertrude Roberts Daughter Female 1890 31 Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Home Duties -
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1911 Census For England & Wales
Long Street Dursley Gloshire, Dursley, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
H F Roberts Head Married Male 49 1862 Ostter at hotel Glos Wotton under Edge
Francis Roberts Wife Married Female 49 1862 - Glos North Nibley
Lilian Roberts Daughter - Female 27 1884 - -
Elizabeth Roberts Daughter in law Married Female 27 1884 - Cleethorps Nr Grimsby << ....<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Albert Roberts Nephew - Male 5 1906 - Toronto, Canada
William Roberts Nephew - Male 3 1908 - Toronto, Canada

Elizabeth said to be married for 6 years with 2 children born and both alive

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Long Street, Dursley, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry J Roberts Head Married Male 39 1862 Grocer hotel Wotton-Under-Edge, Gloucestershire, England
Frances J Roberts Wife Married Female 40 1861 - North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England
Harry J Roberts Son Single Male 18 1883 Saddler Dursley, Gloucestershire, England
Lilian H Roberts Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Cloth weaver Uley, Gloucestershire, England
Gertrude M Roberts Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Scholar Dursley, Gloucestershire, England
Albert J Roberts Son Single Male 11 1890 Scholar Dursley, Gloucestershire, England

Travelling with Mrs HJ Roberts and Albert Roberts

From FMP - read every other line to make sense


First name(s) William
Ship departure port Montreal
Last name Roberts
Ship destination port Avonmouth
Sex Male
Master first name James
Year of arrival 1910
Master last name Harrison
Arrival date 11 Aug 1910
Archive The National Archives
Nationality English
Archive description Bristol: SS Royal George (Canadian Northern Line) travelling from Montreal to Bristol. Embarking at Montreal and Quebec. Official Number: 125643. List of passengers disembarking at Bristol.
Departure port Montreal
Archive item reference BT 26/407/77
Departure country Canada
Item 77
Destination port Avonmouth
Line 46
Destination country England
Record set Britain And Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Class Third
Category Travel & migration
Ship name Royal George
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Shipping line Royal Line Canadian Northern Steamships Ltd
Collections from Great Britain, England, Canada, Americas
Ship number 125643

Possibly return to Canada travelling with Lizzie J aged 27 and Albert age 1 so children's ages a bit out!

Board Of Trade: Commercial And Statistical Department And Successors: Outwards Passenger Lists
Quebec, Canada
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Transcript of William's record
First name(s) William
Destination place - country CANADA
Last name Roberts
Destination country Canada
Sex Male
Ship's square feet 27941
Birth year 1909
Ship's official number 145964
Age 2
Ship's master's title Capt
Age as transcribed 2
Ship's master's last name Harrison
Occupation Child
Shipping line Canadian Pacific
Departure day 19
Number of passengers 557
Departure month 4
Length of voyage in days 17
Departure year 1911
Ship's departure port AVONMOUTH
Departure country England
Ship's destination port Saint John NB
Departure port Bristol
Ship's destination country Canada
Destination port Quebec
Archive The National Archives
Entry struck out N
Series title Board Of Trade: Commercial And Statistical Department And Successors: Outwards Passenger Lists
Destination Quebec
Series BT 27
Province or maritime Quebec
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Country Canada
Category Travel & migration
Ship's name Royal George
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Ship's registered tonnage 9723
Collections from Great Britain, England, Canada, Americas
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William's journey
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