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Baptism: 26 Mar 1905 St Joseph, Longsight, Lancashire
Amy Connor - filia Caroli Connor & Mariae (formerly Dixon)
Born: 28 Feb 1905
Abode: 11 Ernest St.
Matrina [Godmother]: Anna Ramsden
Baptised By: Patritio Daly
Register: Baptisms 1895 - 1910, Page 125, Entry 1106
Source: Original Register

Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)
xxx Connor Amy Greenall Bootle 10b 1439 Scan available - click to view
Douglas Mary L Heaton Bootle 10b 1439 Scan available - click to view
xxx Greenall Frederick Connor Bootle 10b 1439 Scan available - click to view
Heaton Charles A Douglas Bootle 10b 1439 Scan available - click to view

Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)
Davies Walter Naylor Chorlton 8c 1446
Greenall Frederick O'Connor Chorlton 8c 1446 xxxxxxx
Naylor Florence Davies Chorlton 8c 1446
O'Connor Maria Greenall Chorlton 8c 1446 xxxxxx
Shenton George Croke Chorlton 8c 1446

You say Amy married Frederick Hornby - or Greenall - or Hornby Greenall.

Is this the family in 1921?
If so, she's using the name Greenall, although they didn't marry until 1924.


Amy Greenall
in the 1921 England Census
Name Amy Greenall
Gender Female
Age 17 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head Lodger
Estimated Birth Year 1904
Birth Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address 3 Boundary St, West Gorton M/C
Residence Place South Manchester, Lancashire, England
Employer Home Duties
Inhabited Y
Ward St Mark's
Parliamentary Division Manchester Pb, Ardwick Div.
Registration District Chorlton
Registration District Number 464
Sub registration district Openshaw
Sub Registration District Number 4
Respondent Mr Artingham
Enumeration District Name Manchester Cb
Enumeration District 32
Schedule 225
Schedule Type Code E
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Mary Artinstall 54 Head
John Allott 52 Boarder
Thomas Bolton 65 Years 2 Months Boarder

Frederick H Greenall 40 Lodger - married
Mary Greenall 46 Lodger - Wigan - married
Amy Greenall 17 Years 3 Months Lodger
Gilbert Greenall 7 Lodger
Frederick Greenall 6 Lodger
Edith Greenall 4 Lodger
Ethel Greenall 9 Months Lodger


GREENALL, ETHEL mmn CONNOR
GRO Reference: 1920 D Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 1337

GREENALL, EDITH mmn CONNOR
GRO Reference: 1917 D Quarter in BOOTLE Volume 10B Page 1114

GREENALL, FREDERICK CONNOR
GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in BOOTLE Volume 10B Page 1209

GREENALL, GILBERT CONNOR
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 813


But Amy's too young to be the mother of Gilbert and Frederick, unless she started aged 9.
She could just possibly be Edith's mother.

Is she Frederick's step-daughter?
In which case is Mary Greenall Amy's mother Mary Dixon, but giving Connor as her maiden name for the younger children's births??

Or a completely different woman, and Amy's stepmother?
Mary born in Wigan, apparently.

There were seven Mary Connor births registered in Wigan 1875 +/-2

Can't see any marriage of Mary and Frederick.

The address for the above is 5, Duke Street

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Name

Chas Connor
Sex

Male
Age

17
Birth Year (Estimated)

1884
Birthplace

Manchester, Lancashire
Marital Status

Single
Occupation

RAILWAY PORTER
Relationship to Head of Household

Son
Event Type

Census
Event Date

31 Mar 1901
Event Place

Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)

Manchester, Lancashire, England
Sub-District

Ancoats
Registration District

Manchester
Household Identifier

4975116
Record Type

Household
Page Number

39
Piece/Folio

143
Schedule Type

224

Do you know for certain that the woman who married in 1924 was the one whose birth certificate you have?

Do you have certs for both of the marriages to which you refer?

No Sorry I don't have anything on them Just gone through 654 pages of 1911 censuses Nothing It's looking as though they were possibly in another part of the country I'll do they 1901 tomorrow my eyes have gone
Thank you

Do you have the ages of Charles or Mary?

Is their any chance you could find some one in 1901 please it's more difficult with 1911 there is only one family on a page

1901 - also from searching around on Ancestry:

Charlotte Mellor
in the 1901 England Census
Name Charlotte Mellor
Age 51
Estimated Birth Year abt 1850 [abt 1850]
Relation to Head Head
Gender Female
Birth Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish Longsight St Clement [ 11 Ernest Street ]
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration District Chorlton
Sub-registration district Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel 096
Neighbors
Piece 3687
Folio 99
Page number 44
Household schedule number 276
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charlotte Mellor 51 Head

Thank you for that I'm on ancestry but I can put this family in and have a look round I know my family were there in 1905 but usually they didn't move very far

so thank you once again

11 Ernest Street in 1911 (per Ancestry):

William Henry Jones
in the 1911 England Census
Name William Henry Jones
Age in 1911 34
Estimated Birth Year abt 1877 [abt 1877]
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Dewsbury, Lancashire, England
Civil parish South Manchester
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Street Address 11 Ernest St Longsight Manchester
Marital Status Married
Occupation Labourer
Registration District Number 464
Sub-registration district Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel 59
Piece 23760
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Henry Jones 34 Head
Mary Jane Jones 38 Wife
William Henry Jones 7 Son
Albert Edward Jones 5 Son
Morris Jones 1 Son

The Frederick that married Amy is the son of Frederick my gr grand fathers son he was born 1882

Yes it says Formerly
This is where it get a bit complicated she married Frederick Hornby 1924 then in 1929 she married Frederick Greenall but we think it is the same frederick

I've been trying to trace my gr grandfathers brothers for years my gr grandfather was Foster Hornby he had frederick as his brother but on his birth certificate no fathers name so it seems a though he took his mothers maiden name .
His family couldn't find things out about the family and wondered where the Hornby came into it so to cut things short we put 2+2 together and think we have 4

Does the birth certificate refer to the mother as ‘formerly’ Dixon?

Who did Amy marry?

On Find My Past

At St Joseph’s R C Church

You say the Baptism was longsight where did you see this

28th Feb 1905 father a railway Carter Gro it's down as Chorlton

I'm on Ancestry and I don't know when the parents got married this is part of my tree I've been working on for 20 yrs and just had the wall knocked down only to find it's as bad as the first part. I'm hoping to find the family so I can add it to my tree and may be it will give a bit more info although Amy is the one that married into the family