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Lesley, two things:

1 - go to your first post on this thread and click "Edit", you can then alter the heading to include the words US & Australia. That way, people who are a lot more experienced than myself should spot it and be able to help.

2 - how is the name Beats pronounced? What does it rhyme with? For example, the poet William Butler Yeats' surname is pronounced "Yates" whereas the poet John Keats' name is pronounced "Keets". So if Beats was pronounced "Bates" then there's a chance he could be recorded as that somewhere.

pm from Lesley:

"Thank you for replying to my thread. The information is invaluable. I am mystified at Charles giving his next of kin as Helen Beats as that was his mothers name. He was married to Catherine Beats nee McLauchlan. Am unsure as how to get further information on Charles Beats as I am not subscribed to any other website for genealogy and have only standard membership for Genes Reunited."

Have replied saying I'll send original image for Lesley to check out what she thinks the name on the passenger list might be (hard to read).

I can't see Charles Beats on US 1930 census or a US death - can anyone else see anything? Perhaps he moved elsewhere, especially as Lesley says above that her cousin down under fits his description.

Hi everyone who has taken the time to look into Charles Beats and answer my question regarding him. It is very much appreciated. My cousin in Australia must take after Charles as he has dark hair, dark complexion and dark blue eyes and is around the same height. I am wondering if Charles Beats ever got married to anyone in the U.S. or fathered a child there as someone from the U.S phoned my cousin in Australia asking if they might be related. My cousin who didn't know about Charles as he has lived all his life either in New Zealand and Australia and didn't know the story of Charles wasn't able to help the person who phoned. Would have been good if he had.

Thank you again all who answered.

Hello Lesley,

As you state you are looking for other people who may know about the Beats family etc., then it would be worthwhile putting the names you are researching into the Search Trees box above (in the dark green bar).

There are quite a few members on this site who have the name Beats/Dundee/USA etc. in their trees. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owners for further info.

Cx.

Looks like he arrived in NY in time for the 1910 census:


1910 United States Federal Census

[Charles Beats]
Age in 1910: 35
Estimated Birth Year: 1875
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Home in 1910: Jersey City Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1909
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
Paul Graham 54
Mary Graham 48
Ellen Graham 60
Edward Hennigar 21
John Lloyd 60
Elizabeth Kelaher 35
Manoog Kelaher 23
David Bethie 28
George Bethie 28
Edgar Bethie 25
>>Alack Beato 35 (Charles Beats on original), occ: Machinist
Hay Everton 30

Also on Find Living Relatives -

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/living_relatives/thread/1285893

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Charles Beats
Arrival Date: 28 Mar 1910
Birth Year: abt 1872
Birth Location: Scotland
Birth Location Other: durdel (Dundee, Scotland)
Age: 38
Gender: Male Ethnicity/Race- /Nationality: Scottish (Scotish)
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia

He was an engineer, had paid his own passage and had $25. His nearest relative he gives as his wife Mrs Helen?? Beats of 38 Main Street, Shettlestown??

He was going to his friend George Hughes at Morning Journal, Broadway.

Charles answered "No" to the questions asking if he was a polygamist or anarchist. He states his health as good. He was 5'4" had a dark complexion, black hair and dark blue eyes.

Name: Chas BEATS
Date of departure: 18 March 1910
Port of departure: Glasgow
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1872 (calculated from age)
Age: 38
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Engineer
Passenger recorded on: Page 8 of 23

Hope you don't mind:

Haven't been in to messages for a long time now.

I am now looking for my great grandfather Charles Beats b 1872 in Dundee, Scotland. He left Scotland for the United States between 1900 and 1920. I am given to understand that he went to Boston, Massachusetts to get work and then send for his wife and 3 children.

From what I can gather Charles wrote only once and was never heard from again leaving his family in Scotland bereft. He might have died soon after arriving in the USA or moved to another town or city.

I recently went on holiday to Australia to a Beats relative and was told that someone from America had got in touch with my cousin asking him about Charles beats. My cousin not knowing that Charles Beats had gone to the USA was unable to give an answer to the person who called. Would love to hear from anyone who might know of a Beats in the US

1920 United States Federal Census about Charles Beats
Name: Charles Beats
[Charles Beato]
[Charles Beato]
Home in 1920: Jersey City Ward 6, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 47
[51]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
[abt 1869]
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1910
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip W Hiersfiel 51
Kate Hiersfiel 49
Charles Beats 47
[51]
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Hi Lesley,

I am having great difficulty reading your message and I am sure that others will find the same and not bother with it ??

Not meaning to be unkind but could you take off the caps lock and put in a few full stops and white spaces please?

I am sure you would get more of a response if you did that.

Dea Xxx

HAVEN'T BEEN IN TO MESSAGES FOR A LONG TIME NOW. I AM NOW LOOKING FOR MY GREAT GRANDFATHER CHARLES BEATS b 1872 IN DUNDEE, SCOTLAND. HE LEFT SCOTLAND FOR THE UNITED STATES BETWEEN 1900 AND 1920. I AM GIVEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT HE WENT TO BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS TO GET WORK AND THEN SEND FOR HIS WIFE AND 3 CHILDREN. FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER CHARLES WROTE ONLY ONCE AND WAS NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN LEAVING HIS FAMILY IN SCOTLAND BEREFT. HE MIGHT HAVE DIED SOON AFTER ARRIVING IN THE USA OR MOVED TO ANOTHER TOWN OR CITY. I RECENTLY WENT ON HOLIDAY TO AUSTRALIA TO A BEATS RELATIVE AND WAS TOLD THAT SOMEONE FROM AMERICA HAD GOT IN TOUCH WITH MY COUSIN ASKING HIM ABOUT CHARLES BEATS. MY COUSIN NOT KNOWING THAT CHARLES BEATS HAD GONE TO THE US WAS UNABLE TO GIVE AN ANSWER TO THE PERSON WHO CALLED. WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO MIGHT KNOW OF A BEATS IN THE U.S.

Hi Lesley,
I am currently doing my family tree and all the name you have encountered are also part of my family tree. If there is any information I can help you with please drop me a line

I have been researching the BEATS name for about 6 months now and have only recently discovered the names of my GGGrandparents who were ALEXANDER BEATS b 1828 DUNDEE and HELEN KEITH b 1829 DUNDEE. They had 7 children one of whom was my GGrandfather CHARLES BEATS b 1873 DUNDEE. CHARLES married a CATHERINE McLAUCHLAN b 1874. The other children in the family were :-

ALEXANDER b 1856
ISABELLA b 1858
JAMES b 1860
WILLIAM b 1862
ROBERT b 1869
DAVID b 1870
CHARLES b 1873

I am given to understand that DAVID BEATS married a MABEL MITCHELL and had a girl called ISABELLA THOMAS BEATS b 1913. ISABELLA married a DAVID DUNCAN b 1914 and they had 6 children:-

DAVID b 1938
EILEEN b 1940
ALBERT b 1942
ROBERT b 1944
GEORGE b 1952
ISABEL b 1956

All came from around DUNDEE

I am interested to know if there are any living relatives of the above and would love to hear from anyone who recognises these names.

My GGrandparents came to live in GLASGOW after they married in 1893 and had 3 children:- ALEXANDER, MARJORY and CATHERINE. ALEXANDER was my Grandfather and he married a WILLIAMINA BURKE in 1917 and they had 3 children:- ANNE, CHARLES AND ELIZABETH. ELIZABETH is my mother.




Since my last request of trying to find the name Beats, I have had some success with people getting in touch with me. I am now looking for my Great Grandfather Charles Woods Beats b 1876 in DUNDEE, SCOTLAND who apparently went over to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA around the early 1900's to find lodgings and work in Boston and then send for his wife and children to follow him once he had established these. However, this never materialised as the family never heard from him again after a few letters. No one knows what happened to Charles if he died or met someone else. I am wondering if there is anyone especially in America who might recognise his name and come forward. If anyone does I would be delighted to hear from them.