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Mislaid your rellies??Can I help you find them?Cen

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Fern Report 16 Dec 2005 21:35

Hi Mary, I don't know whether you can help me but I would like to take you up on your very kind offer. My great, great, great grandfather was called Samuel Govier born 1837 in Bideford/Parkham, Devon. His father was called James and died before 1867. I have found him as far back as the 1871 census but any further back and I hit a brick wall. I have even thought that the name might have been Glover and changed to Govier through poor spelling. The reason I come to this conclusion is that the only Samuel I have found born in 1837 in Bideford, Devon with his father called James was a Samuel Glover. I really could do with a fresh pair of eyes. Many thanks. Fern.


Mary Report 17 Dec 2005 18:46

Hi Fern Sorry I have tried very hard to find your Govier folks but without success.I think you may be correct in your theory about the name being changed fron Glover.I have foyund a couple of interesting entries on the 1851 census and I have saved the images. If you PM your email addy to you I will forward the images to you,so you can see for yourself. Regards Mary


Mike Report 18 Dec 2005 12:39

Hello Mary, can you please look up 1871 census for Joseph Daniels b abt 1821 at St. Luke's Shoreditch and his wife Phoebe Daniels b abt 1821 Westminster , They had sons Joseph b 1854 Shoreditch and Thomas b abt 1854 Shoreditch i am hoping to find occupations of Joseph and Thomas daniels, Regards Michael


Kirsten Report 18 Dec 2005 15:21

Hi Mary, do you think you could find for me EMMA ARAM on the 1851 and 1861 census please? She was born in Nottingham in 1850 and married Samuel Hawley, born 1849. I'm sorry my information is so limited - I don't anything else about her. I would really appreciate it if you could find her for me please. Don't worry if it's too must trouble! Thank you so much. Kirsten


Mary Report 18 Dec 2005 22:42

Hello again Michael, 1871 census 6 Sawyer Lane,St Luke,Finsbury Phoebe Daniels Head Widow 52 Hawker Phoebe Daniels Daur 26 Silk trimmer Thomas Daniels Son 15 Skin Dresser Joseph Daniels Son 15 Errand boy All born Shoreditch Regards Mary


Mary Report 18 Dec 2005 22:52

Hi Kirsten I am pretty sure that these folks I have found are your family: 1851 Aspley Lane,Basford,Notts Thomas Palin Head 49 Sawyer b Strelley,Notts Hannah Palin Wife 50 b Watnall,Notts Emma Aram Daur Married 23 Glove stitcher Thomas Palin Son 18 Coal miner Hannah Palin Daur 13 Servant William Palin Son 9 Scholar Edith Palin Daur 6 Scholar Emma Aram Grand daur 2 All offspring including young Emma born Basford,Notts 1861 Radford Grove ,Radford,Notts Emma Aram Head Widow 37 Charwoman Emma Aram Daur 12 Scholar Joseph Aram Son 10 Scholar Thomas Aram Son 6 Scholar Peter Aram Son 4 Scholar All born Basford Regards Mary


Mary Report 18 Dec 2005 23:01

Hi Kathy E A search of the 1851 census gives over 120 male Grundys born in Lancashire between 1843 and 1847,none of which were born or living in Liverpool or Everton. At least 40 of those found were called John,which seems to suggest that Grundy was a very common name in Lancashire at the time of the census. The 1861 census gives a similar result. Sorry I cannot be more helpful. Mary


DIZZI Report 18 Dec 2005 23:19

Hello Mary Me again ...looking for Constance Weaver 1813 Witney do you think she'd be on 1841 OXON census i have her on 1851 as a servant,also a Richard Weaver c1780s Witney again i have him on 1851 and he died in 1852 thats if you have time,,think we have found John Weaver in 1774 parents John & Constance Hart keeping all fingers crossed i was seven years out,hoping thay Richard is his brother and Constance a neice or related somhow,,,,thanks Mary

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The Bag Report 18 Dec 2005 23:27

s'cuse me mary it late and i am bored! Kirsten looks lik Emma Arum, widow, had remarried by 1871 Joseph Aram abt 1852 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Radford Nottinghamshire Peter Aram abt 1856 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Radford Nottinghamshire Thomas Aram abt 1854 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Radford Nottinghamshire Annie Dixon abt 1868 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire >Emma Dixon abt 1829 Basford, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Radford Nottinghamshire George Dixon abt 1837 Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England Head Radford Nottinghamshire Rosey Dixon abt 1870 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Radford Nottinghamshire William Dixon abt 1865 Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Son Radford Nottinghamshire


Kirsten Report 19 Dec 2005 11:46

Hi Mary and Jess, thank you so much for taking the time to find them for me. I really appreciate it. Thanks again, Kirsten


Mike Report 19 Dec 2005 14:12

Thanks for the Daniels info Mary, much appreciated, All the best and have a great christmas, Regards Michael


Mary Report 19 Dec 2005 14:59

Hi Gwen I found Constance Weaver age 28 as a Female servant in the Dashwood household in Kirtlington,Oxon on 1841 census. No luck with Ricahard Weaver in Witney though. Still one's not bad. Hope you have a great Christmas and that you get your visit to Witney to pay homage!!!!. All best wishes Mary


Steve Report 19 Dec 2005 15:04

Hi, Looking for Susan Kelly/Kelley. Born around 1809 in Calstock Cornwall. Found in 1851 and that is all. In Devonport Devon Steve


Jane Report 19 Dec 2005 15:07

Hi Mary Thankyou for your offer, I don't know if you can Look up Wales? 1891& 1901Census. Looking for James Butler Morris born about 1857 Camathenshire Daughter Mary Gwendillian Morris born about 1895 Milford Haven Thankyou Jane


Mary Report 19 Dec 2005 15:23

Hi Steve I could not find Susan Kelly on 1861 census.Have you considered that she may have remarried? I have found a Susan Woodmason on 1861 living in Stoke Damerel (where Susan Kelly was resident in 1851) married to a John Woodmason. In 1851 John was married to Mary,not Susan. I have saved the image for John in 51 and for John/Susan in 61 if you would like to see them PM your email addy. I think the possibility of a second marriage is worth looking at. Regards Mary


Mary Report 19 Dec 2005 15:37

Hi Jane I have found James B on 1891 +daughter & family on 1901. I have saved both images,so PM your email addy and I will forward images to you. All best wishes for Christmas and 2006 Mary


DIZZI Report 19 Dec 2005 16:14

Thanks Mary you did it again your smashing thanks a lot Gwen


DIZZI Report 19 Dec 2005 16:20

Mary Forgot to tell you.. i did get my trip to Witney walked down Corn Street,went to St Mary's Church ,found six name on the war memorial,,,,,,found Bartletts the builders,,,it was magical to be where they all came from,,,to stand where they may have at the Butter Cross,,, i can't wait to go again it 's a lovely market town Love Gwen


Jean Report 21 Dec 2005 15:20

Hi Mary, If you have time, could you please look 1891and 1901 for Henry F Hird b. 1862 and his brother Brown Hird b. 1865 , both in Bridlington, Yorkshire. Hope you are keeping well and looking forward to Christmas. Have a great time. Jean


Mary Report 22 Dec 2005 14:27

hi Jean Many thanks for your good wishes for Christmas,here is my Present to you: 1891 8 Joblin's buildings Framwellgate Durham Henry F Hird 29 Boarding in the Ritchie Household employed as a bricklayer b Bridlington 13 St John's Walk Bridlington Brown Hird Head 64 Bricklayer b Bridlington Frances Hird Wife 65 b Scarborough Brown Hird Son 25 Gardener b Bridlington Eliza Garbutt Daur Married 30 b Bridlington Tom Garbutt G'son 1 b Bridlington 1901 16 West Street Hilderthorpe,Yorks Henry F Hird Head 39 Bricklayer b Bridlington Fanny Hird Wife 33 b Bridlington Kate Hird Daur 2 b Bridlington Mabel Hird Daur 4mths b Bridlington 13 St John's Walk,Bridlington,Yorks Frances Hird Head Widow 77 Living on own means b Scarborough Brown Hird Son 37 Gardener b Bridlington Eliza Garbutt Daur 40 b Bridlington Alexander Garbutt Son in law 38 Joiner/Carpenter b Bridlington Tom Garbutt G'son 11 b Bridlington All good wishes for Christmas and the New Year Mary