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Notts 1851 (All County) has arrived(No Idea Where

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susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 24 Jun 2004 13:13

robin your a DARLING!!! thankyou so much (KISS KISS KISS) lol susie

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 13:32

Cheryl Notts 1851 Piece 2127 Folio 619, Hucknall 100 Top Of Crofts Thomas Hardstaff, Head Marr, 32 Frame Work Knitte ,Hose Sarah Wife 26 William son 3 All b Hucknall. There are details of four children christened to a Thomas/Sarah at Hucknall, including a William. There is also a possible marriage in 1846. Let me know if you need those.

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 24 Jun 2004 13:36

Hi Robin Yes thats them could you let me have the other children as well please! The marriage would give me Sarah Hardstaff's maiden name which would be brilliant!!! Regards Cheryl

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 13:52

Marriage Index Thomas Hardstaff/Sarah Hall, 19.1.1846 Hucknall Christening Index Born to a Thomas/Sarah Hardstaff and Christened at Hucknall Ann 16.2.1846 (Born 30.1.1846) William 16.4.1848 Ann 16.12.1852 Mary 27.8.1854 Frances 18.1.1864 All show the father as a FWK. If the two Anns are the same family I assume the first one died but I cannot find her on the Burial Index. There is no Atkin(s) in Hucknall in 1851. There is a Samuel Atkin in 1841 aged 60yrs who appears to be living alone so I assume he has passed on before the next census. Nb Hardstaff is a very common name in this area and most originate from Annesley 2 miles from Hucknall.. In the 17C the spelling is Hardstaffe.

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 13:54

Nipping out to get my LOX trimmed.

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 24 Jun 2004 14:02

Hi Robin Thanks sooooooo much for that!!!!! The daughter Mary is my gr gr gr grandmother. Can't understand where John Atkins came from he's beginning to be a pain!!! Just have to keep looking Again thanks Cheryl

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 14:42

Cheryl Christening Index Thomas Hardstaff 13.9.1818 to William/Mary, William is a Labourer in Manufacture Sarah Hall 20.3.1825 to William /Ann, William is a shoemaker Both at Hucknall and may be worth a look.

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 14:56

Susie I cannot find Town or Brompton on the Newark Piece. There is a Brompton inthe next Piece at Besthorpe, Harry/Mary +4, Any good?

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 24 Jun 2004 15:06

robin thats brilliant! yes please if you dont mind ive just had a look on hubbys info and harry and mary are his gt gt grandparents!!! thankyou so much susie

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 15:48

Hi Susuie Notts Piece 2136 Folio 154 Besthorpe House 40 Harry Brompton, Head, Marr,31, Brick Maker b Newark Mary Wife 24 b Hawton Mary Ann Dau 5 B Sheffield Yorks Priscilla Dau 4 b Masbro, Yorks Henry Son 2 b Besthorpe William Son 3 Months dit Masborough is in the Parish of Kimberworth, now part of Rotherham. I have checked there 1841 and there are no Bromptons listed. I cannot find any listed in Notts either bar one in Nottm. I have sent you some other goodies seperately.

susie manterfield(high wycombe)

susie manterfield(high wycombe) Report 24 Jun 2004 15:52

robin thankyou so much,youve really helped hubby a lot. his family never want to help him at all,even though they all still live in newark praps theres a huge skeleton in the cupboard thats just waiting to jump out lol susie

Gary

Gary Report 24 Jun 2004 20:20

robin could you please have a look for Caudwell in Teversall, they were later at whiteboro farm/silverhill farm and Norwood Farm coming originaly from Wolley Moor Derbyshire. Thanks

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 23:10

Gary Notts 1851 Piece 2123. Teversal Folio 215 No 4 Teversal James Caudwell, Head, Marr, 45 yrs Farmer of 165 Acres b Derbys Crich? Jane , wife 56 yrs b Clipston, Notts ??? Son 16yrs b Teversal Thomas Clarke, Visitor, 30 Yrs b Willoughby? Derbys Lucy ???, House Servant , 18 yrs b Teversal Folio 218 , 32 Stanley,Teversal William Caudwell, Head, 51 Yrs Farmer of 147 Acres, b (Cul??and). Derbys.

Robin

Robin Report 24 Jun 2004 23:13

Rosemary I did not receive your e mail

Gary

Gary Report 25 Jun 2004 00:29

Robin you have filled so many holes in my research, unbelivable, william caudwell, born Culland Farm, Crich and James Caudwell, his Brother, born crich , would be culland farm as well, they went to teversall and farmed there and have got loads of off shoots from there, William was my Ggggrand father and raised kin at wolley moor derbyshire after teversall i think, could you check your 1861 census for teversall to see what Caudwell are there then as i think by 1861 they may have been at wolley moor, you will help to prove this for me thanks a million gary.

Geoff

Geoff Report 25 Jun 2004 11:02

I realise Claypole is in Lincs but I wondered if it was on the Notts census? Seeking any Mussons. Thanks!

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 25 Jun 2004 11:17

Hi Robin Only just picked up my e mails from yesterday we had a power cut till 8.25 this morning. So sorry I've only just replied. William & Mary Hardstaff have looked on the IGI and there a couple of possibilities. The same for William and Ann Hall. Dare I ask you to look on the 1851 Census to see if they are anywhere to be found. Do you know how far from Nottingham Town Centre Hucknall Tokard is? Is it easy to find on a Map? Any suggestions about why I can't find this illusive John Atkins? Just wished now My Dad had told me a bit more about Nottingham and his family before he died. Still trying to find info about his older sisters and brothers. Thanks again for your help Regards Cheryl

Robin

Robin Report 25 Jun 2004 12:12

Gary Woolley Moor 1861 is Derbyshire, Piece 2526 Folios 113/127 Stretton. I have checked the scans and there is no Caudwell. I do not have an index but the handwriting is very good and I have double checked. Teversal 1861 is Notts Piece 2424 Folios 68-76. This is Indexed and there are two references to Caudwell at Folios 71 and 72. Unfortunately these scans are all unreadable. I doubt if the originals are much better. From all the above I think you can take it that they may have been in Teversal 1861.Others are listed in the Mansfield Woodhouse area as well as the north and south of the County

Robin

Robin Report 25 Jun 2004 13:07

Geoff This one proved interesting! The Place Index does not show Claypole so I checked the PROCAT Reader and found the following villages in Lincs listed on Piece 2138, Notts. Syerston,Barkstone,Hougham,Dry Doddington,Stubton,Caythorpe/Freiston,Fulbeck,Maiden House,Fenton and Claypole.I think all these are in the Parish of Claypole. None of these are on the Place Index I then checked the name Index and no Mussons are listed for that Piece. However a visual check reveals At Claypole Folio 317 House 68 Thomas Streets, Head, Marr, 63yrs, Ag Lab, b Newark Notts William Musson, grandson,13yrs, Farm Day Boy, b Claypole Folio 328 House 140 John Musson, Head, Marr, 37, Ag Lab,b Bonnington Lincs Ann, Wife 30yrs, Joseph, son 11yrs, Farm Boy, Sarah Dau, 9yrs, Mary Dau, 7yrs,Elizabeth Dau,5yrs, Hannah Dau, 3yrs,Fanny Dau, 1yr. All b Claypole NB I have only checked Claypole Village. On checking other surnames I found that none of the Lincs names appear to have been indexed.Another lesson learned.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 25 Jun 2004 13:35

Would be really grateful if you could look up JOHN HOWLEY, on the 1851. Possibly living Carlton in Lindrick/Worksop areas, although could be anywhere!! Aged around 40, and born in Ireland. Thank You.