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Do you need a lookup??Ancestry 1841-1901census + F

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Mary Report 28 Jul 2008 12:36

Hi Jane
A bit more info on the Sanderson/Turnbull connection.

I have not been able to find a marriage for Turnbull/Sanderson/Harrison.

1891 Front Row Leasingthorn,Middlestone,Durham
Hohn Harrison Head 48 Coal miner b Merrington,Durham
Elizabeth Turnbull Sister M 38 b Leasington
Florence Turnbull Niece 13 Scholar b Leasington
George Turnbull Nephew 8 b Leasington

Had a look at 1871 as follows:
Elizabeth sanderson Head Wid 53 b Merrington
John Sanderson Son 27 Colliery fireman b Merrington
Harrison Sanderson Son 22 Coal miner b Merrington
Elizabeth sanderson Daur 18 Helps in house b Leasington
William Sanderson Son 16 Colliery Banksman b Leasington

1861 Middlestone,Durham
Elizabeth Sanderson Head Wid 45
George Sanderson Son 14 Coal screener
Harrison Sanderon Son 12 Coal screener
William Sanderson Son 9 Scholar
Elizabeth Sanderson Daur 7 Scholar
All children b Leasington

1851 Leasington,Durham
George Sanderson Head 35 Coal miner b Garton Yorks
Elizabeth Sanderson Wife 33 b Merrington
George Sanderson Son 4 b Merrington
Harrison Sanderson Son 2 b Merrington

I hope this will help,The family are not good on ages or places of birth,but I hope you can make some sense of it.
No idea why John Sanderson becomes Harrison.
Very odd,I am not convinced that Turnbull and Elizabeth were married.

Very glad it is your family not mine!!!!



Jane Report 27 Jul 2008 02:22

Hi Mary,

I am trying to find more info about my paternal grandmother's parents- Elizabeth Turnbull and her husband.

My grandmother was Florence Stubbs nee Turnbull born c 1878 Leasingthorne, Durham.

1881census Florence age 3. Living 867 Leasingthorne with:
Elizabeth Sanderson age 57( b Merrington, Durham) who is listed as head of household and grandmother to Florence.
also present:
John Harrison age 36 single(son of Elizabeth Sanderson)
Elizabeth Turnbull 29 born c 1852/3 Leasingthorne,Durham.
-married and daughter-in-law of Eliz Sanderson.
William Turnbull 27, born Houghton, Durham.
-married and son- in- law of Elizabeth Sanderson

I assumed from this that William and Elizabeth Turnbull are not married to each other.

In the 1901 census neither Elizabeth Sanderson nor William Turnbull are present.
John Harrison is now head of household and Elizabeth Turnbull is listed as his sister and Florence as his niece -now age 23
There is also a George Turnbull who is listed as John's nephew (and presumably Elizabeth's son)
Address is 47 Windlesham Colliery, Chilton. Durham

I am a little confused as ElizabethTurnbull is supposedly Elizabeth Sanderson's daughter-in- law in first census but info in 1901 census implies that she is her daughter (and John Harrison's sister)

I cannot find details that match Elizabeths Sanderson and Turnbull in other census and am unable to find birth or death records for these two. (also searched Elizabeth Harrison)

I have no idea who Elizabeth married but hope to discover this upon receipt of Florence Turnbull's birth certificate- assuming I've ordered the correct one.

Other information:

FlorenceTurnbull married Matthew Stubbs( Sedgefield Sept 1906 Jul-Sep) and I think she died in 1964 (Durham April- June)


Any suggestions / help greatfully received.



Mary Report 25 Jul 2008 18:44

Hi Ray
Sorry i cannot help you with this request as I do not have access to Scottish bmd records.
As to the death ref for Aunt Margaret 2007 death records have not yet been released.

You will need scotlands people site for the scottish records,it is a pay to view site and very good.



RayRob Report 25 Jul 2008 01:24

Thank-you for your fine offer , Mary
I am trying to confirm , and add to , some tentative information that I have :
Margaret Brodie DOB 16 January 1912,at Uphill , West Lothian , Scotland
Possible Parents : Alexander Brodie,born 24 June 1879 , somewhere in Scotland
Isabella Campbell ( 1880 - 1972 ),born somewhere in Scotland.
Alexander Brodie and Isabella Campbell may have been married 6th December , 1901 , at Edinburgh , Scotland.

Margaret Brodie (married surname Urquhart ) is an Aunt of mine . She may have died just last year , at or near Bury St.Edmunds , Suffolk, England
Aunt Margaret was thought to have been living in the village of Barrow , Bury St. Edmunds.

Mary , if you can help in any way , I shall be grateful
Ray Urquhart
New Zealand


Mary Report 9 Jun 2008 11:02



Brenda Report 31 May 2008 11:34

Hi Mary,
Thanks for your time looking for me, It has to be said what a family i've got they all seem to get home in time to die though!! but where do they all go in between. Strange lot, lol !!!!
Many thanks again Brenda x
(now I know where all my confusion comes from lol !!!)


Mary Report 31 May 2008 09:41

Hi Brenda
Sorry looks as if the aliens have been at it again,I have not been able to find anthing for Finnie on 1861 or 1871 census.



Brenda Report 30 May 2008 17:55

Hi Mary,
Can I ask you please for a lookup on scotland census's 1861 and 1871.
I am looking for a William Finnie b 1805c and Mary m.s Cruickshand married 6/1/1825 at New Deer. Aberdeen, Scotland. I have this couple on the 1841 and 1851 census at Allathan, New Deer, Aberdeen, Scotland. I have Mary's death in 1876 at Allathan, New Deer, Scotland although she was a widow when she died. Children Elizabeth b 1825, Margaret b1830, Peter b1833, Jane b1835, Isabel b1838 and James b1843. all at New Deer, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
Can you find anything for me I would be very grateful if you could. Thank you so much Mary.
Love Brenda.
Yes I'm still at it I dont think you ever end as something else keeps cropping up lol !!! Hopefully no alien abductions this time !


Linda Report 25 May 2008 22:37


Sorry I don`t have any other information on the McGill`s
I know they had one daughter Hannah J c1893. She was with her Grandmother Hannah J Browell in 1891 / 1901.
I really needed to know if the McGill had more children after Hannah.

Many Thanks.
Linda x


Mary Report 25 May 2008 22:30

Hi Linda
Sorry,despite extensive searching I cannot find you Mcgill folks on the 1891 or 1901 census.
Do you know the names of any of their children and approx date and place of birth????



maggy Report 25 May 2008 19:49

his dad was also george born 1815


Judy Report 25 May 2008 08:31

Mary, not sure if you have the Scottish Census Records, but I am trying to look up Jane Grieve born 1832-35, parents Peter & Jane Grieve. born 30 Nov 1805 and 1803 respectively. They resided in the High Paisley, Renfrewshire area. I'm wanting to see 1841, 51, 61 in particular - I think Jane was working prior to 1855 when she was married. Her father was deceased prior to 1855, but her mother died in 1878. The name could be spelt Grive, Grieve, Greive.
Many thanks.


Linda Report 25 May 2008 02:20

Hello Mary.

Hope you are Well!

Can you do me a lookup on 1891 / 1901 for the following please.

John c1856 Newcastle upon Tyne.Occ:Sea going stoker (Mar)

Ann c1856 Newcastle upon Tyne.

In 1881 they were at :50 Canada St.Newcastle On Tyne All Sts, Northumberland.
They could be living in either Newcastle upon tyne or Gateshead.

Many Thanks.
Linda x


Mary Report 24 May 2008 23:37

hi Vera
Sorry I have not been online as I have been very busy ferrying folks to hospital in my capacity as a voluntary driver for our local care group.

1891 34 Lyons St,Bootle,Lancs
Edward Francis Head 42 Coal hewer b Galway,Ireland
Bridget Francis Wife 44 b Galway
Margaret Francis Daur 18 Matchmaker b Galway
Edward Francis Son 12 b Bootle
Patrick Francis Son 10 b Bootle
William Francis Son 8 b Bootle



Vera Report 23 May 2008 05:35

Hi Mary, i am looking to find any info on my grand father.
name William Francis d o b 1883 Bootle Lancashire,
with thanks Vera


maggy Report 22 May 2008 20:56

i think his dad was also named george


Mary Report 22 May 2008 08:44

hi Jeanette
Have looked for Doyle/Parkinson marriage 1944-1947 and have not been able to find one anywhere.

If you search freebmd there are 3 possible birth reg for Kathleen Doyle 1918/9 in Toxteth and West Derby area,unless you know her mothers maiden name a bit of a lost cause..



maggy Report 18 May 2008 20:18

my george brown wasn't born until 1849 i know he had one daughter elizabeth jane born 1878


Cheryl Report 9 May 2008 20:22

Harrys father was James B Gower but canot fnd details on there either.

Any further help you can give would be appreciated



Mary Report 9 May 2008 10:49

Could this be your Thomas????b 1893

1901 Crowthorne,Wealdstone,Middx
John Thomas Humphrey Head 39 Grocer,shop keeper b Sevenoaks,Kent
Alice Humphrey Wife 39 b North Newington,Oxon
Alice EE Humphrey Daur 11
Thomas H Humphrey Son 7
Hilda M Humphrey Daur 7
Eva D Humphrey Daur 5
All children born Wealdstone