Genealogy Chat

Rowena

There are about 10 images on Ancestry and they are not in very good condition but it does give his date of marriage and the DOBs of the two children:
Marriage - Tadcaster, 17/9/1910
Florence M - 12/03/1913 - Thomas 21/6/1915.

Quite a lot of men who had been in the war never talked about it and the children would have been very young when he was discharged in 1919.

Thanks Germaine for the information.

Potty

Thomas never talked about his family and that is why we (or I) can never get anywhere, it seems.

Rowena/Germaine

I think there is something not quite right about that 1901 census - mother, Lydia aged 70!

I have checked the Brewerton births, Bradford 1886. There are 2 Charlie & Elijah & I can find both of them with their parents

I though that as well.

Claire in Wales

But there is not Thomas is there in Q Sept or Q Dec 1886

for ref
marraige for emma hesling and henry brewerton 1885 jun quarter bradford y

death of henry sep quarter 1892 n bierley age 31

possible second marriage of emma brewerton mar quarter 1901 n bierley eitheir to arthur edward crowther or william truman

I said it was rather mixed up :-).
I think Lydia was the grandmother she was head of the household though Blanch down as Hesling and granddaughter and William down as Brewerton Grandson.
What makes me think it is the same family is that you mentioned Henry dying and Emma didn't want the kids with her. So looks like she left them with her mother. Will look and see if Lydia was her mother.
Germaine
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No Thomas & I checked the full BMD not just the indexed bit

William should be grandson (transcriber missed the ditto tick) of Lydia in the 1901 and Blanche is granddaughter. All the rest are unmarried children of Lydia.

Yes I think this is her in 1881.
It looks to me that Thomas might have wanted to forget his past and changed his name from William and took a couple of years off. Only a thought.
Germaine
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Emma Hesling
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Lydia
Gender: Female
Where born: North Bierley, Yorkshire, England


Street address: Salt Horn
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Milliner

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: North Bierley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Hesling 20
Esther Hesling 18
Hannah Hesling 25
Joseph Hesling 29
Lydia Hesling 51
William Hesling 50

Oh and in 1891 the Helsings are on the previous page so I would think only a few doors away from the Brewertons. No sign of a Thomas
Germiane
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Think possibly you are right Germaine. I did check Lydia in 1891 to see if Thomas was with her (mistranscribed somehow) as Emma had just had William but he's not there. Could possibly be with his Brewerton grandparents.

Rowena

Did you day you have Henry and Emma's marriage cert? If so, what was Henry's father's name?

On Henry and Emma Marriage cerificate is this: They got married 2nd May 1885. Henry's father is Jesse Brewerton and Emma father is William. They got married at the parish church of Bierely.

Thomas had a brother called william

Ah hadn't thought of that yet Potty will look.
Germaine
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Here's Jesse in 1891 - No Thomas with him:

1891 England Census
about Jesse Brewerton
Name: Jesse Brewerton
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Bethia
Gender: Male
Where born: Wyke, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Cleckheaton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Oakenshaw
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Cleckheaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bethia Brewerton 53 - born Wyke 1838
Jesse Brewerton 55

Germaine

With what you said at the end of page 2 is correct. Emma dumped her kids with the Grandmother, when Emma remarried but I don't know what the Grandmother's name was.

Just looked think I had the right ones and no no Thomas with Jesse Brewertn in eiter 1891 or 1901.
Leaning more to him being William.
Germaine
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Yes Rowena it certainly looks that way that could be why he changed from William to Thomas and maybe with living with Grandmother eventually got his age wrong.
Germaine
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