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1939 National Registration Card Uk

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Shazzlou Report 25 Feb 2013 13:24

Has anyone ordered this to track info on their family? Did you get all the information you wanted such as date of birth etc? Was it worth the £42 that has to be paid?


InspectorGreenPen Report 25 Feb 2013 14:39

Not sure what you get for your money, other than a copy of what was on the card.

I have my grandparents original cards for the1915 registration, which detailed Name, Occupation and Postal address

For 1939, I believe the details included, Residence, Name, Sex, Date of birth, Marital status, Occupation and If member of armed forces or reserves


ElizabethK Report 25 Feb 2013 14:49

I have mine in front of me !

1) National Identity Number
2) Name
3)Class Code
5)Holders Signature
6)Section for changes of address (you had to notify every change of address at the Post Office) and the card was stamped.


Shazzlou Report 25 Feb 2013 15:45

Was hoping If I order one it will have my gt grandfathers full date of birth on as I have been unable to trace his birth certificate at all and can only find him on 1901 and 1911 census when he is already married. AllI have is that his father was named Joseph and occupation of father listed on marriage certificate is blacksmith so full date of birth if it was accurate and not a guess would be brilliant for me.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 25 Feb 2013 15:55

I still have mine too identity card DIVG 269-4 which was used as the basis of the new National Health nos


Kense Report 25 Feb 2013 15:58

I think there may be too much personal data being inadvertently posted on this thread.


ElizabethK Report 25 Feb 2013 16:13

Thank you for your pm Ken

I have amended my entry and asked for Roy's to be RRd -he may like to re post an amended version as the basis was useful


Porkie_Pie Report 25 Feb 2013 16:15

OK who done it?


I don't see how me explaining a class code can be giving to much personal info,

It never gave a name or actual date of birth or place of birth



Porkie_Pie Report 25 Feb 2013 16:19

Elizabeth, You or KenSE could have asked ME to remove that info either via PM or on this thread,


As for re post an amended version as the basis was useful

It would also be useful not to be RRed when trying to help, So if you think it was useful then YOU RRed it then YOU re post it


Kense Report 25 Feb 2013 16:33

I am sorry Roy, I was hoping to avoid any RRs. I PMed Elizabeth before your post appeared.

I realise it is not exact information but it is more personal than appearrs at first glance.
I also think it unwise for Shirley to put her card identity on here.

Perhaps I am being over cautious.


Porkie_Pie Report 25 Feb 2013 16:40

ElizabethK 16:13 Quote, I have amended my entry and asked for Roy's to be RRd -he may like to re post an amended version as the basis was useful

If its OK to amend Your post then at least have the courtesy to ask me to amend my post instead of RRing

May be it was ElizabethK post at 14:49 that gave personal info? I just interpreted it, In future i may just start RRing every time i see such info

I have now removed all my post's with info on this thread



patchem Report 25 Feb 2013 19:55

Possibly Shirley posted a just-slightly-altered identity card number to confuse anyone with bad intentions.


Porkie_Pie Report 25 Feb 2013 21:51

Your old id card number is not any type of security breach

Your card number consisted of a four letter enumeration district code plus the line number of the schedule that was completed by the enumerator,

Whilst this could id an individual on the1939 National Registration, for anyone to get that info proof that the person is deceased is required

Access to the 1911 census is more of a risk because some people on that census are still alive today and the 1939 National Registration Card was a mini census so whats the difference?

1939 mini census info can be accessed for deceased persons only but 1911 census is open to all regardless even when the person is still alive

Shirley has posted the same id card number before



ElizabethK Report 26 Feb 2013 09:33

Apologies Roy for my lack of courtesy

I panicked

I did tell GR it was my own fault



Ann Report 26 Feb 2013 18:47

What is RR ING? What an irritable thread!


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Feb 2013 19:41

Ann - RR is 'Report'. It used to be called 'Request Review' hence RR


Ann Report 26 Feb 2013 19:49

Thank you , DetEcTive


Thomas Report 26 Feb 2013 23:59

I ordered one for my grandfather - in my case from Scotland. The information you get is an extract from September 1939 that has: address, surname and other names, gender, date of birth, marital status, occupation. It does not include the place of birth. An extract is only available where you can show that the person is deceased.

For some reason it costs £15 for a national registration record extract in Scotland compared to £42 in England. There are no records for Northern Ireland.

National Registration gave each person a registration number that appeared on their ID Card. These numbers were used to create the NHS numbers for people in England, Wales and Scotland and the National Registration records retained by the relevant NHS bodies.

Northern Ireland used a different method to create the NHS Register and their National Registration records were destroyed in the 1950s.

The National Registration numbers were replaced in 1993 by a different system comprising a different series of numbers.

I hope this helps.



Denis Report 27 Feb 2013 08:16

The above is the sort of irritating nonsense that sets GR apart from most other family history forums. A potentially fascinating discussion totally sidetracked.


patchem Report 27 Feb 2013 18:05

Which above?
What irritating nonsense?
Surely you do not mean Thomas, who does not appear to have been side-tracked?