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Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 27 Jul 2013 22:46

Would anyone be kind enough to give me details of the Gibbs family who lived at 41 Clipstone Street, Marylebone, London at the time of the 1891 census? I am looking for Walter Gibbs & his family.
Thank you, it would be a great help


ErikaH Report 27 Jul 2013 22:58

1891 census

Address: 41, Clipstone Street, St Marylebone, London

263 PROCTOR, Emma Head Widow F 41 1850 Dressmaker
Acton, Middlesex VIEW
263 PROCTOR, William Son Single M 16 1875 House Boy Servant
Marylebone, London VIEW
264 FRUDENBERG, Hezilia Lodger Single M 71 1820 Teacher
Copenhagen VIEW
265 BEARD, James Head Married M 46 1845 Furniture Salesman
Holborn, London VIEW
265 BEARD, Harriet Wife Married F 47 1844
Leamington, Warwickshire VIEW
265 BEARD, Horace Son Single M 17 1874 Clerk
Croydon, Surrey VIEW
265 BEARD, John Son Single M 17 1874 Clerk
Croydon, Surrey VIEW
265 LARGE, Frank Boarder Single M 24 1867 Cook & Confectioner
Mildenhall, Suffolk VIEW
265 NEAL, James Boarder Single M 25 1866 Carman
Freckenham, Suffolk VIEW
266 PARLOUR, John W Head Widower M 33 1858 Furniture Porter
Clerkenwell, London VIEW
266 PARLOUR, John W Son M 13 1878 Errand Boy
Westminster, London VIEW
266 PARLOUR, Agnes E Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Westminster, London VIEW
266 PARLOUR, Walter G Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Westminster, London VIEW
267 DANBY, Amelia Lodger Single F 63 1828 Straw Hat Maker
Liverpool VIEW
268 SMITH, Elizabeth Lodger Married F 46 1845 Dressmaker
St Clair, Wales VIEW
270 SMITH, Fredk Head Married M 29 1862 French Polisher
Marylebone, London VIEW
270 SMITH, Harriet Wife Married F 20 1871
Cardines, Kent VIEW
270 ROBINSON, Edward Brother Single M 13 1878 Errand Boy
Boxley, Kent VIEW
269 ELY, Arthur G Head Married M 31 1860 Painter
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
269 ELY, Alice Wife Married F 23 1868
Camberwell, Surrey VIEW
269 ELY, Alice Daughter F 1 1890
St Pancras, London VIEW
269 ELY, George J Son M 0 1891
Marylebone, London


ErikaH Report 27 Jul 2013 22:59

tell us all you know about Walter, so that a search can be carried out


Nyx Report 27 Jul 2013 23:03

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Walter Gibbs
Name: Walter Gibbs
Year: 1891
County or Borough: Westminster
Ward or Division/Constituency: Marylebone East
Street Address: 41 Clipstone-street

He's there with John Bell, john Watson and Charles Morelli

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 27 Jul 2013 23:05

Oh no, he wasn't there but thank you for looking.
I am well & truly stuck on this one with extremely little info to go on .....

John Henry Gray age 24, Private in Army, father Harry Gibbs (deceased/Horse Keeper ... Harry was deceased, he didn't keep deceased horses!!)
married Elizabeth Mary Gibbs, age 21, father Walter Gibbs (deceased Pianoforte maker) in Paddington Register Office on 2nd May 1916

The family believe that the Gibbs came from Ireland and the Grays from Paddington but I have searched high & low in both without success.

Reggie, any help at all would be appreciated ... thank you

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 27 Jul 2013 23:10

RamblingRose - I don't think that is him :-(
Thank you though

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 27 Jul 2013 23:15

I'm having to give in and go to bed now ... if anyone was to find anything or reply to me, please don't think I'm ignoring you, I will check in the morning. Night ...


Nyx Report 27 Jul 2013 23:16

If that's not him Sue, where did you get the address of 41 Clipstone street from ?


ErikaH Report 27 Jul 2013 23:19

Who witnessed the 1916 marriage?

Have you looked for/found Elizabeth's birth?


MarieCeleste Report 27 Jul 2013 23:40

The FindMyPast version of what is posted above (Elizabeth Huroon onwards seems to be an entirely different household at number 7)

1891 census

GIBBS, Walter Head Married M 26 1865 Pianist Paddington, London
GIBBS, Mary A Wife Married F 30 1861 Paddington, London
GIBBS, William G Son Single M 3 1888 Paddington, London

Piece: 91 Folio: 157 Page: 60
Registration District: Marylebone
Civil Parish: St Marylebone

Address: 6, Buckingham Street, St Marylebone, London County: London

EDIT: The "post above" by Sylvia appears to have now been deleted.

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 28 Jul 2013 07:25

Good Morning
Rambling Rose - I found a Walter Gibbs living at that address in the 1891 Electoral Register but I think that only gives the head of the house so I needed to look at the 1891 census to see who his family were

Reggie - the witnesses were C.M. Duce and J.A,W. Mitchell
I have tried unsuccessfully to find Elizabeth's birth. Her granddaughter tells me that she was always told that Elizabeth & her family were from Ireland but there are no birth entries in Ireland that seem to match

Marie Celeste - Thank you for this 1891 entry, it certainly looks promising ... would be great to find this family in 1901 to see if they had a daughter, Elizabeth

Thank you all for your help


Susan Report 28 Jul 2013 08:18

Possible for the family in 1911.

1911 England Census
about Elizabeth Mary Gibbs Name: Elizabeth Mary Gibbs
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Thornton Heath, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 27 A Cowper Road, Wimbledon
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Learning Laundry
Registration District: Kingston
Registration District Number: 40
Sub-registration District: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household Schedule Number: 245
Piece: 3489
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Ann Gibbs 44 >>>>Separated
Fredrick William Gibbs 23
Lillian Eliza Gibbs 21
Elizabeth Mary Gibbs 16
Thomas Edward Gibbs 14
Harry Gibbs 11
Maude Louise Gibbs 8

All children born surrey .2 have died


ErikaH Report 28 Jul 2013 08:28

Try the Irish censuses

1901 and 1911 are free on line


ErikaH Report 28 Jul 2013 08:28

1901 for the family posted above in 1911

1901 census

Person: GIBBS, Elizabeth Address: 151, Spa Road, Croydon

GIBBS, Frederick Head Married M 36 1865 General Labourer
Mitcham VIEW
GIBBS, Eliza A Wife Married F 35 1866 Charwoman
Peckham, London VIEW
GIBBS, Frederick Son M 13 1888 Errand Boy
Surrey VIEW
GIBBS, Lily E Daughter F 11 1890
Surrey VIEW
GIBBS, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1895
Surrey VIEW
GIBBS, Thomas Son M 4 1897
Surrey VIEW
GIBBS, Harry Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Surrey VIEW


Susan Report 28 Jul 2013 08:52

Fathers don't match do they Reggie :-|

May have come from Ireland after all.

Sue in Sunny Worthing

Sue in Sunny Worthing Report 28 Jul 2013 19:02

Hello, sorry I have been out all day (making the most of the sunshine on Worthing's sunny seafront)

Thank you, I had already found those entries in 1901 & 1911 but, as Susan said, the father isn't the same name and he has a different occupation which is a shame

I have also already checked the Irish 1901 & 1911 census and cannot find a Gibbs family that fits .... I think I have exhausted all look ups :-(

Thank you for your help ...