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I have a John on 1911 Census there is a Charles John who married an Olive 1931 she emigrates to Auckland 2 April 1937 he to Sydney A week later, Single both artists. could this be my John. I have access to UK information on both major sites but not overseas records.

Any information would be gratefully received.

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about John Charles Lunghi
Name: John Charles Lunghi
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1937
State: Western Australia
District: Perth
Subdistrict: West Perth
20 or 29 Kings Park Rd – Artist. No other Lunghi’s at that address

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about John Charles Lunghi
Name: John Charles Lunghi
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1943
State: Western Australia
District: Perth
Subdistrict: West Perth
Flat 6, 246 St George’s Terrace – Artist. Again no other Lunghi at that address.

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about John Charles Lunghi
Name: John Charles Lunghi
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1949
State: Western Australia
District: Fremantle
Subdistrict: Claremont
16 Osborne Parade, Cottesloe.
With Barbara Jean Lunghi, home duties

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about John Charles Lunghi
Name: John Charles Lunghi
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1954
State: Western Australia
District: Fremantle
Subdistrict: Claremont

18 Victoria Parade with Barbara Jean

If you access the Australian Trove newspaper archive Advanced Search and enter John Lunghi in the "The Phrase" box, you will find 77 newspaper reports referring to John Lunghi and his work as an artist. One of these articles gives his age and refers to him being English.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

There is also an entry on the Australia National Archives website giving this information from Citizen Military Forces Personnel Dossiers, 1939-1947:

LUNGHI JOHN CHARLES : Service Number - W48423 : Date of birth - 06 Mar 1907 : Place of birth - LONDON ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - CLAREMONT WA : Next of Kin - LUNGHI JOHN

1958 - same as 1954
1963 - same address but Barbara Jean no longer listed
1968, 1972, 1977 - as 1963

???
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Charles John Lunghi
Name: Charles John Lunghi
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1980
State: Western Australia
District: Curtin
Subdistrict: Claremont
18a Osborne Parade - Artist

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Charles John Lunghi
Name: Charles John Lunghi
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1980
State: Western Australia
District: Curtin
Subdistrict: Nedlands

38 Kanimbal Rd – Artist

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Charles John Lunghi
Name: Charles John Lunghi
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 10 Jul 1956
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Fremantle, Australia
Ship Name: Strathmore
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Strathmore' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company
Master: W H Chond

From the image, the above ER for Charles John Lunghi is not your man.

He was travelling with
Hamish John Lunghi dob dd/May 1952
Barbara Jean Lunghi dob 27 Jul 1915
His dob 6 Mar 1917 – Artist

They had been staying at Princes court Hotel W8

Unless your John knocked 10 years off his age, even the ER with Barbara are a bit suspect.

EDIT - just seen the post with the WW2 enlistment details. As the day and month are the same, perhaps he DID knock off 10 years!

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Charles J Lunghi
Name: Charles J Lunghi
Marriage Place: Western Australia
Registration Place: Fremantle, Western Australia
Registration Year: 1941
Registration Number: 14

Too many Barbara J's in the same reg district and year to decide which one.

http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00016852

Summary Of Record Information

First Name BARBARA JEAN
Names are only recorded in capitals
Application Number
Last Name LUNGHI KC00016852
See legend for application code details
Aged (Years) 45 Date of Death 10/12/1960
Suburb CLAREMONT

Ashes Request
MEMORIALISED AT KARRAKATTA CEMETERY
(please enquire for a specific location) Completed yes


Memorial Type ROSE MEMORIAL
Memorial Location
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY CREMATORIUM ROSE GARDENS 9P 0014 yes
Cemetery Garden, Wall or Path Site Position Completed
................

http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00070741

Summary Of Record Information

First Name CHARLES JOHN
Names are only recorded in capitals
Application Number
Last Name LUNGHI KC00070741
See legend for application code details
Aged (Years) 75 Date of Death 05/07/1982
Suburb NEDLANDS

Ashes Request
MEMORIALISED AT KARRAKATTA CEMETERY
(please enquire for a specific location) Completed yes


Memorial Type ROSE MEMORIAL
Memorial Location
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY CREMATORIUM ROSE GARDENS 9P 0014 yes
Cemetery Garden, Wall or Path Site Position Completed
...............

There are other Lunghi burials on the site but probably not relevant
http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/ResearchAndGenealogy/Search.aspx


Last Name Given Names Age Year of Death Suburb
LUNGHI ALFREDO 74 years 1990 DIANELLA
LUNGHI GAETANA 39 years 1962 THOMASTOWN VICT
LUNGHI KATHLEEN MARY (alias: LUNGHI, KAY) 79 years 2003 DIANELLA

On the assumption that Hamish John was his son

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Hamish John Lunghi
Name: Hamish John Lunghi
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1977
State: Western Australia
District: Curtin
Subdistrict: Nedlands

38 Monash Ave 6009 - Student

At the same address in 1980, still a student

Surname FirstName District Number Sex Year SpSurname SpFirstName
Lunghi Charles J Fremantle 14 M 1944 Chilvers Barbara J
Lunghi Alfredo Perth 3744 M 1965 Schweizer Kathleen Mary

Is this your man that you are trying to find?

1911 census transcription details for: 53 Hackford Road Brixton S W
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN2060 RG78PN72 RD25 SD4 ED11 SN123
Reg. District: Lambeth
Sub District: Brixton
Parish: Lambeth
Enum. District: 11
Address: 53 Hackford Road Brixton S W
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LUNGHI, John Head Married M 44 1867 Wine Superintendent Hotel Switzerland Resident
LUNGHI, Teresa Wife Married
17 years F 38 1873 Switzerland Resident
LUNGHI, Marie Daughter F 14 1897 School London Holborn
LUNGHI, Teresa Daughter F 9 1902 London Holloway
LUNGHI, Alfonson Son M 7 1904 London Holloway
LUNGHI, Edward Son M 6 1905 London Paddington
>>LUNGHI, John Son M 4 1907 London Brixton
LUNGHI, Kathleen Daughter F 2 1909 London Brixton
LUNGHI, Eva Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 London Brixton


His birth?

Civil Registration event: Birth
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Name: LUNGHI, Charles John
Registration district: Lambeth
County: London
Year of registration: 1907
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 429


and his brother.

Civil Registration event: Birth
Print Close
Name: LUNGHI, Edward John A
Registration district: Paddington
County: London
Year of registration: 1905
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 65

His marriage.

Name: LUNGHI, Charles J
Registration district: Lambeth
County: London
Year of registration: 1931
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Long
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 373

Name: LONG, Olive M N


and hers



Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Olive Mabel Nellie Lunghi
Name: Olive Mabel Nellie Lunghi
Spouse Name: Francis Rushton Courcier
Marriage Date: 1944
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Manly, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1944
Registration Number: 3687

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Olive Lunghi
Name: Olive Lunghi
Year: 1932
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Holborn
Street address: 7 Francis Street


Living with John. There is also a Harold and Esther Mary Missingham with them.

Harold was a very famous painter who married Olive's sister.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Missingham

http://creativeeffortsydney.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/hal-missingham-1906-94-artist-and.html




London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about Olive Mabel Nellie Lunghi
Name: Olive Mabel Nellie Lunghi
Year: 1936
County or Borough: Haringey
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hornsey


With John Charles.

With husband and 4 children.



UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Mrs O M Courcier
Name: Mrs O M Courcier
Birth Date: abt 1907
Age: 44
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 13 May 1951
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Mooltan
Search Ship Database: View the 'Mooltan' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 145435


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Mrs Olive M N Courcier
Name: Mrs Olive M N Courcier
Gender: Female
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 10 Feb 1954
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: New Australia
Search Ship Database: Search the 'New Australia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Shaw Savill Line
Official Number: 162650
Master: K D Fisher




England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Olive Mabel N Courcier
Name: Olive Mabel N Courcier
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1906
Date of Registration: Jun 1975
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Cambridge
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 9
Page: 0664

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Olive Mabel Nellie Courcier
Name: Olive Mabel Nellie Courcier
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1949
State: New South Wales
District: Macquarie
Subdistrict: Blackheath



Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Olive Mabel Nellie Courcier
Name: Olive Mabel Nellie Courcier
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1958
State: New South Wales
District: North Sydney
Subdistrict: Wollstonecraft



Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Olive Mabel Nellie Courcier
Name: Olive Mabel Nellie Courcier
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1963
State: New South Wales
District: North Sydney
Subdistrict: Wollstonecraft

Name: Olive Lunghi (Occ. Artist)
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 2 Apr 1937
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Auckland, New Zealand
Ship Name: Mooltan
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Mooltan' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 145435
Master: F E French


????

Name: Olive Mabel Nellie Lunghi
Spouse Name: Francis Rushton Courcier
Marriage Date: 1944
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Manly, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1944
Registration Number: 3687


Name: Mrs O M Courcier (Housewife)
Birth Date: abt 1907
Age: 44
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 13 May 1951
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane
[Sydney]
[Melbourne]
[Adelaide]
[Colombo]
[Bombay]
Ship Name: Mooltan
Search Ship Database: View the 'Mooltan' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 145435

Travelling with
Mr. F. R. Courcier (Advertising CopyWriter
Miss. C. A. Courcier, Aged 12
Master J. V. Courcier, aged 10
Miss. M. J. Courcier, aged 6
Master R. O. Courcier aged 4

All going to C/O Bury Lodge, Storrington, Sussex


Name: Mrs Olive M N Courcier
Gender: Female
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 10 Feb 1954
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: New Australia
Search Ship Database: Search the 'New Australia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Shaw Savill Line
Official Number: 162650
Master: K D Fisher

Travelling with Francis, Constance, John, Mary and Richard.

Address: 63 Tweedy Road, Bromley, Kent


Name: Olive Mabel N Courcier
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1906
Date of Registration: Jun 1975
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Cambridge
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 9
Page: 0664

1980 Electoral Roll

Name: Francis Rushton Courcier
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1980
State: New South Wales
District: Wentworth
Subdistrict: Hyde Park
Address: 20 Chapel Street

Francis Rushton was also in England in 1936.


Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1918-1945 about Francis Rushton Courcier
Name: Francis Rushton Courcier
Year: 1936
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Chertsey
Place of Abode: 47 Bank House
Reference Number: CC802/53/1


Name: Francis Rushton Courcier
Year: 1935
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Chertsey
Place of Abode: 47 Aysgarth
Reference Number: CC802/52/1



Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1918-1945 about Francis Rushton Courcier
Name: Francis Rushton Courcier
Year: 1934
Country: England
County: Surrey
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Chertsey
Place of Abode: Elmwood
Reference Number: CC802/51/1


and on the same ship out as Olive in 1937.



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Francis Courcier
Name: Francis Courcier
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1912
Departure Date: 2 Apr 1937
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Auckland, New Zealand
Ship Name: Mooltan
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Mooltan' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 145435
Master: F E French

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/46755766


Charles John Lunghi v Olive Mabel Nellie Lunghti Ground: Adultery with Francis Rushton Courcier.

Well found Alviegal.