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paphosdave

paphosdave Report 31 Aug 2017 12:09

Hi, Peeps. I am almost certain that I have Timperley's in the USA. I have them placed in Massachusettes around 1650 but not under Timperley, they are the Sheldon branch, via marriage. There are Timperley's in Nebraska that had Farms within 1/2 mile of my family in England in the late 1800's, yet I cannot link them in. Where do I go from here? TIA.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Aug 2017 15:49

As you've headed your thread "Emigration" I assume you're looking for emigration records for these Timperleys?

Where were your family in England?

A quick look at the US censuses does show a large number of Timperley households in Nebraska!
For example, this John was apparently born in England:


John Timperley
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: John Timperley
Age: 56
Birth Date: Abt 1824
Birthplace: England
Home in 1880: Union and Jefferson, Douglas, Nebraska, USA
Dwelling Number: 90
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary A. Timperley
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Timperley 56
Mary A. Timperley 49
Thomas P. Timperley 23
Jane P. Timperley 19
Allice M. Timperley 17
Albert Timperley 16
Edward A. Timperley 14
Phebey E. Timperley 12
Walter W. Timperley 9
Clarance L. Timperley 8
Frank H. Timperley 6


Although 1870 says he was born in Nebraska -


John Temperly
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: John Temperly
Age in 1870: 49
Birth Year: abt 1821
Birthplace: Nebraska
Dwelling Number: 315
Home in 1870: Douglas, Nebraska
Gender: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Father of Foreign Birth: Y
Mother of Foreign Birth: Y
Male Citizen Over 21: Y
Personal Estate Value: 3000
Real Estate Value: 8000
Household Members:
Name Age
John Temperly 49
Mary A Temperly 43
Sarah Temperly 18
Mary Temperly 16
Thomas P Temperly 13
Jane P Temperly 11
Alice M Temperly 9
Albert Temperly 7
Edward Temperly 5
Phebe Temperly 3
Walter W Temperly 1

What research have you already done - so that we don't duplicate?

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 31 Aug 2017 20:32

Hi ArgyllGran, I've not done much research for a few years due to other commitments. To answer your questions. My family were farmers in Cheshire, notably Limetree Farm which was in Sale Cheshire; Great Grandfather Ezra Timperley born in 1834. Limetree school now occupies the site I believe. I cannot find any links that would get me into the USA, My tree radiates around Bowden Parish in Altrincham, Cheshire where many of the BDM'S are located. not much but I hope this is helpful.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Sep 2017 21:44

Unfortunately, Dave, the fact that there are no further replies from anyone means we haven't been able to find anything conclusive, either!

Have you any thoughts on roughly when (even to within 10 or 20 years) any of your Timperleys might have gone to USA?

So far, I can't find any records mentioning both Cheshire and Nebraska. There are some Timperleys who went from Cheshire to New York and Massachusetts area.

And there are lots in Nebraska ,including some from England, but no specific mention of Cheshire.



For example, there's this man (looks like the one in my previous post) - but from Manchester, not Cheshire:

John Timperley
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: John Timperley
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1821
Birth Place: Manchester, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Death Date: 23 Jan 1891
Death Place: Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, United States of America
Cemetery: Mount Hope Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse:
Mary Ann (Mitchell) Timperley (1827 - 1912)*

Children:
John Poole Timperley (1845 - 1926)*
George T. Timperley (1848 - 1864)*
Sarah Timperley Bolin (1851 - 1940)*
Mary Timperley Taylor (1853 - 1955)*
Thomas Poole Timperley (1856 - 1898)*
Jane Plant Timperley Tope (1858 - 1930)*
Alice Marion Timperley Wilt (1862 - 1930)*
Albert Timperley (1863 - 1933)*
Edward Abbott Timperley (1865 - 1952)*
Phoebe Emallen Timperley Mingus (1867 - 1949)*
Walter Willis Timperley (1869 - 1951)*
Clarence Lee Timperley (1871 - 1897)*
Frank Hoen Timperley (1874 - 1956)*


From findagrave:
John was born in Manchester, Lancashire, England. John immigrated to the United States around 1840 and settled in Nauvoo, Illinois. Here he met and married Mary Ann Mitchell on April 8, 1844. They moved to Salt Lake City, and later came back to Nebraska by wagon and purchased 160 acres north of Irvington, Nebraska. They lived on this farm the rest of their lives. He was the son of John and Sarah (Poole) Timperley. He had 5 brothers and sisters--Mary, Sarah, Alice, George and Mary. John and Mary Ann had 16 children--Elizabeth, Clarence Lee, Jane Plant, Frank Hoen, Albert, Alice Marion, Edward Abbott, George, Walter Willis, Phoebe, Mary, Sarah, William, John Poole, Thomas Poole and John. He is buried next to Mary Ann, and sons George and Thomas Poole in Mt. Hope. Nine other children are buried nearby, as are many grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 5 Sep 2017 16:39

Many thanks, ArgyllGran, I will work on the info you have posted and keep looking. :-)

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 15 Sep 2017 18:54

I now have one Ernest Edward Timperley dob 11/1884, sailed for New Zealand 04/04/1906 on the SS Oswestry Grange. Arriving at Wellington on 16 /06/1906. He was a clerk at age 22. Any advance on this would be helpful, tia.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 15 Sep 2017 20:29

Private House, 111, Wembury Street, North Manchester, Prestwich, Lancashire, England

1901 cenus.

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bowcock Head Married Male 30 1871 Corporation Labourer Stretford, Lancashire, England Transcription
Charlotte Bowcock Wife Married Female 26 1875 - Sale, Cheshire, England Transcription
Dorothy Bowcock Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Blackley, Lancashire, England Transcription
Harriet Timperley Sister-In-Law Single Female 25 1876 Fruiterer Assistant Sale, Cheshire, England Transcription
Thomas Timperley Brother-In-Law Single Male 19 1882 Shippers Clerk Sale, Cheshire, England Transcription
Ernest E Timperley Brother-In-Law - Male 16 1885 Shippers Clerk Sale, Cheshire, England.


1891 census.

Lime Tree Farm, Baguley Road, Sale, Altrincham, Cheshire, England

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ezra Timperley Head Married Male 56 1835 Farmer Lancashire, England Transcription
Sarah Timperley Wife Married Female 45 1846 - Derbyshire, England Transcription
Samuel F Timperley Son Single Male 27 1864 Farmers Son Assistant Lancashire, England Transcription
George H Timperley Son Single Male 23 1868 Farmers Son Assistant Lancashire, England Transcription
John W Timperley Son - Male 17 1874 Farmers Son Assistant Cheshire, England Transcription
Charlotte Timperley Daughter - Female 16 1875 Household Work Cheshire, England Transcription
Harriet Timperley Daughter - Female 15 1876 Household Work Cheshire, England Transcription
Charles A Timperley Son - Male 13 1878 Farmers Son Cheshire, England Transcription
Annie Timperley Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription
Emily Timperley Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription
Thomas E Timperley Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Cheshire, England Transcription
Ernest E Timperley Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Cheshire, England

malyon

malyon Report 15 Sep 2017 21:57

there are a lot of Timperley's going to usa

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Sep 2017 22:51

Ernest Edward
Last name Timperley
Birth date 1884
Age at death 32
Registration year 1916
Registration number 1916/1914
Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords
Country New Zealand
Record set New Zealand Death Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Australasia, New Zealand
Crown Copyright © 2017 https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 Sep 2017 22:53

No image to check who else at that address


First name(s) Ernest Edward
Last name Timperley
Electoral year 1911
Number 8402
Occupation/status clerk
Residence Matai Road
Electorate Wellington East
Qualification -
Country New Zealand
Source 1911
Record set New Zealand Electoral Rolls
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Electoral Rolls
Collections from Australasia
© Findmypast

EDIT

No other results showing in Wellington for Timperley

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Sep 2017 01:33

The 'National Library of New Zealand' (Auckland) (on-line) has an 'Ask a Librarian' service - they will check their records including electoral rolls (past & present) and newspaper death notices.

Valerie

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 20 Sep 2017 22:18

Thank you all for your valiant efforts once more. I'll be back!
God Bless. D.

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 21 Sep 2017 19:09

On the probate records for Wellington High Court in New Zealand, his wife gave written testimony That he died 04/03/1916 and signed her name as 'C Timperley. As far as I can see he went to NZ single and died married so where do I go from here, please?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2017 22:15

Ernest Edward Timperley
in the New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937
Name: Ernest Edward Timperley
Gender: Male
Marriage Year: 1914
Marriage Place: New Zealand
Relation: Bridegroom
Folio Number: 1007


Unfortunately there's no image to view, and no mention of his wife's name.
Marriage place is somewhat vague, too.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2017 22:42

???

Constance Amy Latto
in the New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937
Name: Constance Amy Latto
Gender: Female
Marriage Year: 1914
Marriage Place: New Zealand
Relation: Bride (Wife)
Folio Number: 1007




Constance Timperley
in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Constance Timperley (married)
Electoral Year: 1914
District: Wellington East
Region or Province: Wellington

Address: 35 Matai Road. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


At same address, still listed as married, in 1919.


???
at 4 Hataitai Road, widow:

Constance Amy Timperley
in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Constance Amy Timperley
Electoral Year: 1928
District: Wellington East
Region or Province: Wellington


Constance Amy Timperley
in the New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937
Name: Constance Amy Timperley
Gender: Female
Marriage Year: 1929
Marriage Place: New Zealand
Spouse: David Norman Wilkinson
Relation: Bride (Wife)
Folio Number: 8502


Constance Amy Wilkinson
in the New Zealand, Death Index, 1848-1966
Name: Constance Amy Wilkinson
Death Date: 1960
Registration Place: Wellington, New Zealand
Folio Number: 5689



Constance Amy Latto
in the New Zealand, Birth Index, 1840-1950
Name: Constance Amy Latto
Birth Date: 1892
Registration Place: New Zealand
Folio Number: 4934

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Sep 2017 22:48

Constance Amy Wilkinson
in the New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007
Name: Constance Amy Wilkinson
Birth Date: abt 1893
Death Age: 67
Death Date: 30 Oct 1960
Death Place: Karori, Wellington
Burial Place: Wellington, New Zealand
Cemetery: Karori

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 22 Sep 2017 11:56

Thanks, ArgyllGran. I think the 35, Matai Road sounds right but for her STILL being married in 1919. I am waiting on NZ Library to get back to me, hopefully with a definitive answer. Thanks for all your help, you have added to the tree. God Bless. D.

paphosdave

paphosdave Report 7 Oct 2017 20:35

ArgyllGran, update on Ernest E T. NZ Library researcher got back to me with DoD, Marriage to Constance Amy Latto, some info on his activities with YMCA Football and Cricket. Thanks so much for your input. Now having a look at Constance's details. Where she was born, died etc. Even though they were married for such a short time, Any children.? God Bless. D.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2017 22:01

Constance's birth 1892, New Zealand, as posted above.

Died in Karori, Wellington, also posted above.

Perhaps your NZ Library researcher can tell you exactly where in NZ she was born.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2017 22:17

This link doesn't say where she was born, but says her parents were David and Janet Latto.

https://www.geni.com/people/Constance-Latto/6000000018071708110

Apparently her father died in Moora, WA.