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Michael

Michael Report 18 Oct 2017 20:11

At a dead end, David Wyatt born 1874 came to usa in 1909 with wife Ellen.
Can't find Marriage or David's Father or Ellen surename.
Help anyone.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Oct 2017 20:48

Have you tried freebmd

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 20:54

Welcome to the boards, Michael.

Where was David born?


Just to start the ball rolling -

Is this perhaps the couple in 1901 ??

David Wyatt
in the 1901 England Census
Name: David Wyatt
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Ellen Wyatt
Birth Place: Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Cradley
Ecclesiastical parish: Cradley
Town: Cradley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Chainmaker
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Halesowen
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2751
Folio: 134
Page Number: 43
Household schedule number: 257
Household Members:
Name Age
David Wyatt 26
Ellen Wyatt 24 born Halesowen


David Wyatt
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: David Wyatt
Age in 1910: 36
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Providence Ward 6, Providence, Rhode Island
Street: Wyatt Street
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1906
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Ellen Wyatt
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Chain-Maker <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Industry: Blacksmith Shop
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 12
Out of Work: N
Number of weeks out of work: 0
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
David Wyatt 36
Ellen Wyatt 33
Joseph E Wyatt 0
Joseph Wyatt 33


Immigration 1906 ??

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Oct 2017 20:57

Maybe
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Name: David Watt
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 27
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1873
Marriage Date: 3 Aug 1900
Marriage Place: Gloucester, St Catherine, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: St Catherine
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Father: William Watt
Spouse: Ellen Kay

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 20:59

??? If that's the right Ellen born in Halesowen (per 1901 census above) -

Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
Willetts Ellen Stourbridge 6c 167
Wyatt David Stourbridge 6c 167


Stourbridge reg district includes Halesowen

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:02

???

Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
Willetts Ellen Stourbridge 6c 195



Ellen Wyatt
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Ellen Wyatt
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Nationality: English
Birth Date: abt 1877
Birth Place: Kalesowen, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 27 Jun 1907
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Last Residence: England
Friend: David Wyatt
Ship: Republic


She's listed as "wife";
Last permanent address: Cradley.
Going to join husband David Wyatt, 135 B . . . field Street, Providence, RI.
5 ft 4ins; fair complexion, brown eyes and hair.


patchem

patchem Report 18 Oct 2017 21:07

If this is David's birth, no Father:

From GRO
WYATT, DAVID -
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 179

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:09


David Wyatt
in the 1881 England Census
Name: David Wyatt
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Father: William Wyatt <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Where born: Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Cradley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: High Park
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Stourbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2884
Folio: 20
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
James Wyatt 58
Samuel Wyatt 27 - unmarried
William Wyatt 24 - unmarried
David Wyatt 6

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:14

It doesn't look as if you'll ever know David's mother's name, as it's not given on his birth record, and his parents were unmarried.

Michael

Michael Report 18 Oct 2017 21:15

Thanks you for replying
what i have so far David Born in 1874 in Worcestershire - Stourbridge. no father no mother.
married Ellen Charlotte Cohen in 1892 in Norfork Mitford from usa death she was born around 1877 +/-. Again no mother or father.
Came to USA through LiverPool 1909.

would like to expand out in uk but

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Oct 2017 21:18


Name: Joseph E Wyatt
Birth Date: 4 Nov 1909
Birth Place: Rhode Island
1st Parent: David Wyatt
2nd Parent: Helen Wyatt

patchem

patchem Report 18 Oct 2017 21:20

David Wyatt
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1874
Baptism Place: Cradley,Worcester,England
Mother: Ellen Wyatt
FHL Film Number: 895367, 895368, 895369

patchem

patchem Report 18 Oct 2017 21:25

Wyatt family from 1881 in 1861, with a daughter Ellen, potential mother to David, 1874.

James Wyatt 34 Cradley etc
Ann Wyatt 34
Ann Wyatt 14
George Wyatt 12
Ellin Wyatt 8
Samuel Wyatt 4
William Wyatt 2
Class: RG 9; Piece: 2063; Folio: 101; Page: 23; GSU roll: 542911

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:28

This is the marriage you think is the right one, Michael:

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
Cohen Ellen Charlotte Mitford 4b 767
WYATT David Mitford 4b 767

Why do you think this is the correct one?



Ellen Charlotte Cohen
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Ellen Charlotte Cohen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 27 Oct 1892
Marriage Place: Shouldham-Thorpe, Norfolk, England
Father: Joseph Lewis Cohen <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: David Wyatt
FHL Film Number: 2299169
Reference ID: item 12 p 81

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:34

she was born a lot earlier than 1877:


Ellen Charlotte Cohen
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Ellen Charlotte Cohen
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Yaxham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: The Rectory
Occupation: Nurse Domestic Servant
Registration district: Mitford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1977
Folio: 46
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cowper Johnson 36
Emily Barham Johnson 29
John Hamilton Cowper Johnson 3
Wilfred Harry Cowper Johnson 2
Kenneth Cowper Johnson
Ellen Charlotte Cohen 30
Ellen Lois Springall 19


Ellen Charlotte Cohen
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ellen Charlotte Cohen
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 268



COHEN, ELLEN CHARLOTTE mms GANT
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 13 Page 268




Ellen C Cohen
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Ellen C Cohen
Age: 2 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Cohen
Mother's name: Charlotte Cohen
Gender: Female
Where born: Norwich
Civil Parish: Norwich St Michael at Thorn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Conisford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 1814
Folio: 178
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Cohen 35
Charlotte Cohen 30
Sarah A Cohen 11
Emanuel Cohen 10
Leon Cohen 5
Henry Cohen 3
Rosetta Cohen 2
Ellen C Cohen 2 Mo

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:40

Definitely not the right Ellen, so the 1892 Mitford marriage isn't the right couple:



Ellen C Wyatt
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Ellen C Wyatt
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: David Wyatt
Birth Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Yaxham
Ecclesiastical parish: Yaxham St Peter
Town: Yaxham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Mitford
Sub-registration district: Mattishall
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1870
Folio: 33
Page Number: 7
Household schedule number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
David Wyatt 54 - born Yaxham, c1847
Ellen C Wyatt 50




Ellen Charlotte Wyatt
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ellen Charlotte Wyatt
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Harwich, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Brandon Parva, Welborne and Runhall
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Brandon Parva Wymondham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Private Means
Registration district: Forehoe
Registration District Number: 226
Sub-registration district: Costessey
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 11332
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Charlotte Wyatt 60 - married, living apart

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:43

Her husband in 1911:

David Wyatt
in the 1911 England Census
Name: David Wyatt
Age in 1911: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Yaxham, Norfolk
Civil Parish: Yaxham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: Dereham Rd, Yaxham S O
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 19
Estimated Marriage Year: 1892
Occupation: Boot and shoe Maker
Registration district: Mitford
Registration District Number: 232
Sub-registration district: Mattishall
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 11504
Household Members:
Name Age
David Wyatt 64

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Oct 2017 21:46

PM from Michael:

"You seem to have him on first try with the first thread. born in 1874 married to Ellen in 1892 Mitford. I noticed that you have no names of there fathers and mothers so i can move into the UK with this. At the end of your first thread you have a Joseph age 0 That is my connection."


No, Michael, your David didn't marry Ellen Cohen.

He married Ellen Willetts in 1898, as posted earlier.

patchem

patchem Report 18 Oct 2017 23:36

Has he put the wrong birth year?
David Wyatt
in the U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995
Name: David Wyatt
Birth Date: 10 Apr 1875
Birth Location: Two Gates, Cradley, England
Spouse: Ellen
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, U.S. Circuit and District Courts
Dismissed in 1919

Added:
Uses same birth date in a 1917 application

patchem

patchem Report 18 Oct 2017 23:50

There is a death for a David Wyatt in Everett, Massachusetts in 1936, no age specified.

There is on the same page of the alphabetical death index (Massachusetts 1936 to 1940) a death also in 1936 for Ellen (Willetts) Wyatt in Everett in 1936.