Genealogy Chat

Just looking at the names of the children. What do you know about the other children? I see you have Ann as having two children, David and Joan- Do you know who Ann married, or have approximate ages?

There is this couple- Mary was still young enough to be the mother of Robert.

Ireland Census 1911 Transcription
Townland/Street Chapel Lane
District electoral division Longford No. 1 Urban

Charles Bresland Head of Family Married 23 1888 Labourer Edinburgh
Mary Rose Bresland Wife Married 21 1890 Co Longford
Annie Teresa Bresland Daughter - 2 1909 Co Longford
James Patrick Bresland Son - 0 1911 Co Longford
Ellen Clerton Boarder Widowed 71 1840 Co Longford
------------------------------------

Charles and Mary (Kerrigan) married in 1908 Longford. Charles lists his father as Alexander (a soldier).

Annie Teresa was born 5th November 1908

James (just registered as James- no middle name) was born 8th May 1910

As well as Annie and James they also have son Thomas MAL Breslin born 1915.

Your list of children contains an Anne, Jimmy and Mal- which could be the children above (Annie, James & Thomas Mal)
-------------------------------

Thomas Mal Breslin (Listed as Thomas Mil Breslin on his death) died in Devon 2004.
--------------------------

There is a possible death for Charles Breslin in 1957 Longford:

Charles Breslin
Death: 18th August 1957
Abode: OConnell Terrace, Longford
Married
Age: 70
Occupation: ? Porter
Cause of death: Heart Failure
Informant: Mary Breslin (OConnell Terrace, Longford)

Further re the Charles born in Dundee -

either of these could perhaps be his death;

BURKE
CHARLES A CONNI. . . . . .
0
1896
282/2 33
St Mary


BURKE
CHARLES
67
1962
282/2 261
Dundee West

Samantha -

did you try contacting the Ancestry tree owners?

If the tree which said he was born 1895 is correct, and if he was actually born in Scotland, this is the only Charles Burke fitting that:

BURKE
CHARLES ALEXAND[ER ?]
M
1895
282/2 579
St Mary [Dundee ]

You would have to buy a copy of the cert to find out his parents' names.

I don't see him in 1901 census in Scotland.

In 1901 in Ireland, there are a few Charles Burkes born around 1895, but none in Longford, and none born in Scotland.

And of course, the Ancestry tree may not be correct.

There were 13 Charles Burkes born in Scotland 1880-1905 - per Scotlands People.

Without knowing more about him (which we don't) it's impossible to know which one might be him (if any).

Knowing his children's names doesn't really help, without also knowing where and when they were born.

Copied from another thread Samantha started today - to keep everything together:


Samantha Report 29 Nov 2017 11:41

I would like to find out Charles parents and his wifes first name please and if possible her parents names. The only information i have is the folllowing:

Charles Burke (Scotland) bn approx 1895 married ????? Breslin in Ireland


they had 11?? children
Robert Breslin 1921-1988 ( Longford) my grandfather
jimmy
charlie
anne ( 2 children david and joan)
margaret
mal

Thankyou both, i will sign up to that one.

Samantha -

Do you have a sub to Ancestry (or a 14-day trial) ?
If so, search "Public Member Trees" for Robert William Breslin born 1922.

Among the results you'll see a tree called "Breslin Tree". The owner is"brez25".

That's where I found the mention of Charles Burke.

On some other tree Shirley has found Charles as being born 1895, Scotland.
I don't see that tree, but I'm sure she can tell you which one it is.

[and has now edited her post above]

From a tree on ancestry
Charles Burke was born in 1895. Scotland

There is a private tree owner on Ancestry who you can try to contact

SUEKNAPP178

robert Breslin 1922 father is Charles Burke (scotland) we believe robert took his mothers maiden name as the family disapproved of charles marrying her.

hi
do you have the marriage cert for robert in 1945

this could be a brother

Name THOMAS BRESLAND
Date of Birth 03 May 1915
Group Registration ID 1453335
SR District/Reg Area Longford
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname KERRIGAN
Image(s) 1 2

father is charles mother is mary kerrigan

charles is a soldier

Hi Argyll Gran, how would i go about viewing this tree please? This is my family.

A tree on Ancestry says (without offering any proof) that Robert's father was Charles Burke, and his mother's surname was Breslin.

No further details about his mother.
The tree says Charles Burke was born in Scotland and died in Longford - no date given.

Possible birth for Lottie:

LOWER, CHARLOTTE mother's maiden name MEAKIN
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in BRIGHTON Volume 02B Page 204

Parents marriage:


Marriages Jun 1872
HEARD Henrietta Studey Chichester 2b 361
HEATHER Louisa Lucy Brighton 2b 361
LONGHURST Joseph Brighton 2b 361
LOWER Jesse Brighton 2b 361 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
MEAKIN Ellen Brighton 2b 361 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

1911 census???

Samuel James Ricketts
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name Samuel James Ricketts
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
Event Place Brighton, Brighton, Sussex, England
County Sussex
Parish Brighton
Sub-District West Brighton
Registration District Brighton
Gender Male
Age 36
Marital Status (Original) MARRIED
Occupation PAPER - HANGER
Birth Year (Estimated) 1875
Birthplace Guildford, Surrey
Relationship to Head of Household Head


Samuel James Ricketts Head M 36 Guildford, Surrey
Lottie Ricketts Wife F 36 Brighton, Sussex
Samuel James Ricketts Son M 17 Brighton, Sussex<occ:Porter Grocers
Lottie Ellen Ricketts Daughter F 15 Brighton, Sussex
Emma Grace Ricketts Daughter F 12 Brighton, Sussex
Lilian Mainie Ricketts Daughter F 7 Brighton, Sussex
Rose Helena Ricketts Daughter F 4 Brighton, Sussex
Frank William Ricketts Son M 1 Brighton, Sussex
Edward Alfred Ricketts Son M 1 Brighton, Sussex


Marriage:
Marriages Sep 1893
Lower Lottie Brighton 2b 445 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Payne George Albert Brighton 2b 445
Ricketts Samuel James Brighton 2b 445 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Scruby Mary Jane Brighton 2b 445



1901 census:


Samuel Ricketts
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name Samuel Ricketts
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Brighton, Sussex, England
County Sussex
Civil Parish Brighton
Ecclesiastical Parish Brighton St Peter With West Blatchington St Peter
Sub-District East Brighton
Registration District Brighton
Residence Note Sussex Street
Gender Male
Age 26
Occupation DAYMAN EDEN THEATRE
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1875
Birthplace Guildford, Surrey
Schedule Type 50
Page Number 6
Household

Samuel Ricketts Head M 26 Guildford, Surrey
Lottie Ricketts Wife F 26 Brighton, Sussex
Samuel Ricketts Son M 7 Brighton, Sussex
Lottie Ellen Ricketts Daughter F 5 Brighton, Sussex
Emma Ricketts Daughter F 2 Brighton, Sussex
Albert Lower Brother-In-Law M 20 Brighton, Sussex
Elizabeth Tower Sister-In-Law F 16 Brighton, Sussex

Possible Birth:

RICKETTS, SAMUEL JAMES JANES mothers maiden name LOWER
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in BRIGHTON Volume 02B Page 232

Death:

Location
Ricketts Samuel James 1894 1980 1980 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Brighton, Sussex, England

Birth for Lilian:

Births Mar 1927
Ricketts Lilian R mothers maiden name Barnden Brighton 2b 273

Death:

Breslin Lilian Rose 1927 1991 1991 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Brighton, Sussex, England


Possible parents marriage:

Marriages Jun 1919
Barnden Mary E Ricketts Lewes 2b 550 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
LEE William E Styles Lewes 2b 550
Ricketts Samuel J Barnden Lewes 2b 550 <<<<<<<<<<<
Wadey John F Wilkinson Lewes 2b 550

Births Mar 1927 (>99%)
Ricketts Lilian R Barnden Brighton 2b 273

Rickett Household (5 People) **Ricketts on image
Firle Road , Brighton C.B., Sussex, England

Samuel J Rickett 11 Jan 1894 Male Foreman Painter Widowed 217 1
Maisie Reed (Rickett) 01 May 1920 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 217 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Irene E Rickett 15 Mar 1925 Female Dressmakers Apprentice Single 217 4
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

First name(s) LILIAN R
Last name RICKETTS
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1945
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ LILIAN R RICKETTS married
Robert W Breslin
Spouse's last name Breslin
District Brighton
District number -
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 747
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

He isn't on the 1939 register so probably still in Ireland then

His marriage cert to Lilian should name his father'



First name(s) ROBERT W
Last name BRESLIN
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1945
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ROBERT W BRESLIN married
Lilian R Ricketts
Spouse's last name Ricketts
District Brighton
District number -
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 747


He left a wil

VIEW England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Robert William Breslin
Death Date: 30 May 1988
Death Place: Brighton
Probate Date: 20 Oct 1988
Registry: Brighton

Thankyou, just went to do that and needed to know mothers name unfortunately.