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1939 census look-up if possible

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Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Mar 2018 11:36

Could anyone who has access to this census look for Laura King and son George - (thought to be registered Wilfred George) who would be living in Gloucestershire probably the Cinderford area. George would be under 20 years of age. Many thanks.

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 11:46

Might it be this one?

King Household (5 People)
35 Tudor Road , Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England

Laura King 13 Dec 1898 Female Housewife Married 287 2
George W King 03 Aug 1896 Male Wholesale Meat Salesma Married 287 1
Maurice H King 05 May 1923 Male Time Clerk Constructional W Boo? Tr Single 287 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
John W King 03 Aug 1931 Male At School Single 287 5

Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Mar 2018 11:55

Thanks Nyx - I don't think that is them but I am making a note just in case. Thank you.

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 12:04

Was Laura married or do you have a date of birth for her? the two children named on the 1939 had mother's maiden name Carpenter, but doesn't look as though there was a son George to that couple

Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Mar 2018 12:33

Hi Nyx - well Laura was supposedly married although I have as yet not found a marriage record. However on the 1911 census she is down as the wife of William Taylor aged 30 (she is 27 at the time) and they have 3 children - Phoebe Laura, Eva Agnes, Alice Ivy. I know there were several children after this BUT Laura has a chequered history. I do believe that at some point she left her husband and set up with another man - who had money ! I think they may have had a couple of children themselves but she did have George ( Wilfred George?) at the time and he was sent to boarding school y this more wealthy man. I am trying to discover this for a friend of mine and if we are not successful in locating Laura in 1939 I will ring my friend and see if she knows the man she set up home with. Laura didn't die until 1981 aged 97. Oh my goodness Nyx - I am so sorry but Laura Jane King was supposedly married by 1939 and would have been recorded I expect as Laura Jane Taylor. So sorry for that mistake.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Mar 2018 12:37

Could this be Laura's birth:-

First name(s) LAURA
Last name CARPENTER
Birth year 1899
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District Pontypridd
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 689
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births

This could be a birth in December 1898 and registered in the 1st quarter of 1899.

Kath. x

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 12:40

For ref

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Harry Hill Drybrook Gloucestershire, East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
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Print transcription View image Add to tree Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Taylor Head Married Male 30 1881 Drybrook Glos Coal Miner Hewe
Laura Jane Taylor Wife Married Female 27 1884 Longhope Glos -
Phoebe Laura Taylor Daughter - Female 10 1901 Drybrook Glos -
Eva Agnes Taylor Daughter - Female 6 1905 Drybrook Glos -
Alice Ivy Taylor Daughter - Female 5 1906 Drybrook Glos -

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Mar 2018 12:40

This is the only Laura J. Taylor that I can see in Gloucestershire (she is a widow):-

Bullock Household (2 People)
Upper Redlands , East Dean R.D., Gloucestershire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

Laura J Taylor 20 Jan 1884 Female Housekeeper Widowed 59 2
George Bullock 03 Mar 1863 Male Wood Turner (Or Machinist) Widowed 59 1

Kath. x

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 12:42

Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)

King Laura Westbury S. 6a 559
TAYLOR William Westbury S. 6a 559

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Taylor Wilfred G King Westbury S. 6a 471

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 12:44

Wilfred born 1924 doesn't appear to have died before 1991 ? so won't show on the 1939 reg unfortunately EDIT yes he did


First name(s) WILFRED GEORGE
Last name TAYLOR
Gender Male
Birth day 30
Birth month 3
Birth year 1924
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1977
District Gloucester
County Gloucestershire
Volume 22
Page 1589
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

Taylor Household (6 People)
3 Hawkwell Row , East Dean R.D., Gloucestershire, England

Wilfred G Taylor 30 Mar 1924 Male Farm Labourer Single 272 4
Albert ? Taylor 02 Nov 1896 Male Colliery Engine Winder Married 272 1
Sarah J Taylor 06 Jul 1896 Female Household Duties Married 272 2
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Ronald Taylor 24 Jul 1927 Male At School Single 272 5
Charles Waite 21 Dec 1862 Male Old Age Pensioner Widowed 272 6

Margaret

Margaret Report 7 Mar 2018 12:52

Nyx - I am so so grateful to you for all your efforts solving this puzzle for us. My friend will be delighted. She is in her early 80's and this has been a puzzle for years. Her grandmother (Laura Jane had been a bit of a mystery for years. Thank you again very much indeed.

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 12:53

hmmm

The Sarah J Taylor on that 1939, was Sarah J Waite who it appears married to King?

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)

King Arthur C H Waite Westbury S 6a 559 view
Waite Sarah J King Westbury S. 6a 559

Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%)

King Sarah J Taylor Westbury S. 6a 570
Taylor Albert King Westbury S. 6a 570

So Wilfred George is with his aunt? by marriage??

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 13:00

Arthur C H King ( first husband of Sarah J Waite) seems to be Laura's brother

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brook Cottage, Furnace Mill Road, Longhope, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England



Henry King Head Married Male 37 1854 Gloucestershire, England General Laborer
Lucy King Wife Married Female 37 1854 Gloucestershire, England -
Mary King Daughter - Female 11 1880 Gloucestershire, England Scholar
Sidney King Son - Male 10 1881 Gloucestershire, England Scholar
Laura King Daughter - Female 7 1884 Gloucestershire, England Scholar <<<<<
Elizabeth King Daughter - Female 4 1887 Gloucestershire, England Scholar
Evan King Son - Male 2 1889 Gloucestershire, England -
Arthur King Son - Male 0 1891 Gloucestershire, England -

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 13:03

date of birth matches the Laura J 1939 reg' posted by Kathleen

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 T
First name(s) LAURA JANE
Last name TAYLOR
Gender Female
Birth day 20
Birth month 1
Birth year 1884
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1981
District Forest of Dean
County Gloucestershire
Volume 22
Page 1823
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

Nyx

Nyx Report 7 Mar 2018 13:12

Births from the GRO

KING, LAURA JANE mothers maiden name WILLIAMS Order
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in WESTBURY ON SEVERN Volume 06A Page 243

KING, ARTHUR CHARLES HAROLD mmn WILLIAMS Order
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in WESTBURY ON SEVERN Volume 06A Page 272

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Mar 2018 14:03

A possible for Laura's husband's death:-

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name TAYLOR
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1881
Age 55
Death quarter 1
Death year 1936
District Westbury on Severn
County Gloucestershire
Volume 6A
Page 404
Country England

Kth. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Mar 2018 17:55

Name: Laura Jane King
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Feb 1884
Baptism Place: Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Longhope
Father: Henry King
Mother: Lucy King

Margaret

Margaret Report 8 Mar 2018 15:50

Hi Nyx - thanks for your information. I have been spending ages trying to sort this all out and have discovered that the Albert Taylor that Sarah Jane Waite (then King) married after her first husband Arthur died was in fact the brother of William Taylor (Laura Jane King's husband) !!! I have alsd discovered that Sarah Jane Waite's father was Thomas Waite (I think Thomas Robert Waite) and that the witnesses to her wedding to Arthur King were Charles Thomas Waite (her brother? her uncle?) and a Beatrice May Hodkinson. With this information I tried to find both the Waite family and Taylor families on census returns to try and tie the Taylors together. No success I'm afraid. I have tried all the individual people but cannot tie them all up together as yet. I shall keep trying !

Nyx

Nyx Report 8 Mar 2018 18:34

That's good Margaret, what was Thomas' occupation on Sarah Jane's marriage?

Not that this helps but you mention Beatrice m Hodkinson being a witness on marriage cert

She married Hubert/Herbert Cale Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%) note the names of the other couple on page

Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)

Cale Hubert G Hodkiinson Westbury S. 6a 491
Hodkinson Beatrice M Cale Westbury S. 6a 491
Taylor Florence K M Waite Westbury S. 6a 491
Waite Albert Taylor Westbury S. 6a 491

Cale Household (4 People)
Faxis Plump Road , East Dean R.D., Gloucestershire, England


Herbert G Cale 18 Aug 1901 Male Turner & Fitter Engineer Married 33 1
Beatrice M Cale 27 May 1892 Female Household Unpaid Married 33 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Nyx

Nyx Report 8 Mar 2018 18:40

TAYLOR, FLORENCE KATHLEEN MAY HONE Order
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in WESTBURY ON SEVERN Volume 06A Page 298

also known as Kathleen on 1939 and listed as Cathleen here ( sister Ethel maud mmn Hone for confirmation)
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Plumphill Near Mitcheldean, East Dean, Gloucestershire, England



Henry Taylor Head Married Male 45 1866 Lea Herefordshire Collier Hewer Underground
Agnes Taylor Wife Married Female 45 1866 Churcham Glos -
William Taylor Son Single Male 21 1890 Long Hope Glos Collier Hewer Underground
Ethel Maud Taylor Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Plump East Dean Glos -
Cathleen Taylor Daughter - Female 9 1902 Plump East Dean Glos School
Oscar Brain Boarder Single Male 20 1891 Plump East Dean Glos Collier Horse Driver Underground