Genealogy Chat

Thank you for that ArgyllGran. I’ve looked up Ladyman Street on the internet and see that there was a Richard Mayor landlord of the Oddfellows public house which was no. 1 or 2. William Mayor lived at no.4 so there must be some sort of relationship. I will pursue that.


1901
Richard Mayor 35 years Publican b. Hutton
Martha E. Mayor 34 Wife b. Croston
Mary Mayor 13 Daughter b. Preston
Elizabeth Mayor 11 Daughter b. Penwortham
Gertrude Mayor 8 Daughter do
John Mayor 6 Son do
Helen Mayor 1 month Daughter b. Preston

Looked at birth records and see that the parents of Richard born 1866 were John Mayor and Elizabeth Webster who married 1862. Penwortham, Preston.

Don’t seem to be able to find a birth for Mary born 1888 with mothers maiden name Forshaw although I can find the other children.

Looks like mary was registered as May

MAYOR, MAY FORSHAW
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 638

Try the following sites

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

From the latter site

Marriage: 2 Sep 1862 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
John Mayor - full, Game Keeper, Bachelor, Hutton
Elizabeth Webster - full, Spinster, Penwortham
Groom's Father: James Mayor, Farmer
Bride's Father: Richard Webster, Joiner
Witness: Richard Mayor; Dinah Webster
Married by Licence by: T. R. Finch
Register: Marriages 1857 - 1885, Page 73, Entry 146
Source: LDS Film 1526058


Marriage: 8 Aug 1886 Victoria Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Cheetham, Lancashire, England
Richard Mayor - 21, Clerk, Bachelor, 20 Storey Court, Preston
Martha Elizabeth Forshaw - 19, Dress Maker, Spinster, Lord Street, Cheetham
Groom's Father: John Mayor, Publican
Bride's Father: Henry Forshaw, Gentleman
Witness: Thomas Harrison; Thomasina C. Eddy
Married by Licence by: Geo. Scott, Minister, in the presence of the Registrar
Register: Marriages 1885 - 1895, Entry 31
Source: LDS Film 2357169

I’ve found Mary (May) on the Lancs.bmd for 1887.
I notice that when Richard married Martha, Richards father John is listed as a publican. John was the landlord of the Old Black Bull from 1875-1877. The pub is still up and running.
Haven’t yet found where he moved to from here but have found the following.

Sir, Having heard that it is circulated among the farmers, &c.,
of this neighbourhood that the disease in horses called 'Farcy'
has been in my stables, and having been asked if they were free
from it now, and as it is calculated to injure my business, I shall
thank you to state in your next issue that the disease was in the
Bull Hotel Stables, Church Street, and not the Black Bull Inn, Friargate.

JOHN MAYOR
Black Bull Inn, Friargate. January 26th 1876

Below is the advert for when John Mayor bought the pub. All very interesting.

THE OLD BLACK BULL INN" FRIARGATE
Near Lune Street, one of the oldest, best-known, and frequented Public-
houses in Preston, with commanding frontage on the main thoroughfare,
close to the Central and other Markets, and with two valuable back-entrances
from Lune Street and Hill Street respectively, handsome, plate-glass fronted
spirit vault, well-appointed Bar, Snug, Smoke-rooms, large Club Room, and
other trade requirements, extensive Stabling, capital Brewhouse and other
appurtenances and every accessory of a large and lucrative business.
BY H.C.WALTON at his Sale Rooms on Monday 14th September 1885
at 3 o'clock afternoon.
Preston Chronicle 12th September 1885
*

There is a story about a gentleman(?) being thrown out of that pub 3 times for being drunk. He thought he had been in 3 different pubs as he went in at a different entrance each time.

Just out of curiosity I met my husband to be in the Old Black Bull. We were married for 57 years and he passed away last year.
I bet it can tell all sorts of stories both good and bad.
Thank you all for your input.

Today I called at the local reference library to see if Robert Rigby lived in Hartington Road in 1935 and he did. I noticed by the side of his name there was a J which according to the index means he was a juror. It made it sound like it was an occupation but I can’t find out how they decided who was to be a juror.
On the 1939 register it was stated he was a retired grocer but was only 57 so he must have made a good living. He died in 1968 aged 87.

The j indicates he is eligible for jury service not that he did act as one

In the 1930 it was only men over 21 who usually served

Info
Even though women were able to serve on juries starting in 1898, women were able to seek exemption from jury duty and they did not regularly serve on juries until the 1930s. In 1920, when the Nineteenth Amendment granted women's suffrage, the push for jury rights in the remaining states increased.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Wo...

I think your Wikipedia quote refers to the USA, Shirley?

Re English juries:

The jury had always been a socially exclusive institution, and historically people had to own land of a particular value in order to qualify. Until 1919, women were automatically disqualified from serving on trial juries, and even after this date local prejudices had the effect of keeping women off the jury. The fact few women satisfied the property qualifications until they were abolished in the 1970s also served to heavily restrict the number of women eligible for jury service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juries_in_England_and_Wales

Thank you

Oh ok

I just did a google and it came up with the ref I posted
Didn’t say it was USA

I was of the mind that it was only males over 21 in the 1930,s