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Robert Leo Collier (b1882) Fulham London Middlesex

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Ronald

Ronald Report 25 Feb 2020 17:07

I am trying to trace the parents of the above all I know is tat his mother's maiden name was Holt. Can any one help?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:13

Look on freebmd for the marriage of the parents using the two surnames


https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2020 17:14

Welcome to the boards, Ronald.

For our reference:

COLLIER, ROBERT LEO mms HOLT
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 262


Robert Collier
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Robert Collier
Gender: Male
Age: 8
Relationship: Boarder
Birth Year: 1883
Birth Place: Fulham, London, England
Civil Parish: Charlton
Residence Place: Charlton, London, England
Registration district: Woolwich
Sub registration district: Charlton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 528
Folio: 51

Address: Creswell Park, Park House.
Seems to be a Roman Catholic boarding school.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:14

Name: Robert Leo Collier
Enlistment Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Place: Fulham, Middlesex
Enlistment Year: 1900
Regiment: Devonshire Regt
Regimental Number: Devon/5960
Attestation Paper: Yes

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:17

A photo on Ancestry carries this info

Name
Robert Leo Collier
Birth
Abt 1883
Death
26 Apr 1947

From a tree on Ancestry
Spouse: Mabel Eliza Pearson
Father:
Mother:
Children: Ena Constance
Birth: 1883 Fulham Middlesex England
Death: 26/04/1947 Auburn New South Wales Australia
Residence: 02 Apr 1911 Paddington Lancashire England

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Feb 2020 17:20

For ref


COLLIER, CHARLES JOHN HOLT
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 304

COLLIER, ELLEN MAUDE MARY HOLT
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 260

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:20

Possible sibling

COLLIER, CHARLES JOHN HOLT
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 304

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Feb 2020 17:24

Possible? son born Ireland which might suggest father was in military? 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Halford Road, Fulham, London & Middlesex, England


Sarah Collier Head Widow Female 44 1847 Dressmaker London, Middlesex, England
Thomas Collier Son Single Male 13 1878 Scholar Ireland
Ellen Collier Daughter - Female 4 1887 Scholar London, Middlesex, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Feb 2020 17:28

This is the 1881 for the family with Sarah in 1891

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
33, St Oswalds Road, Fulham, London & Middlesex, England


Thomas Collier Head Married Male 29 1852 Travelling Ticket Examiner (Railway) East Indies
Sarah Collier Wife Married Female 34 1847 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Emily M A Collier Daughter Single Female 7 1874 - Newport, Essex, England
Thomas J H Collier Son Single Male 3 1878 - Mullingar, Ireland
Arthur P M Collier Son Single Male 1 1880 - Cork, Cork, Ireland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2020 17:28

Ellen Maude Mary's death:

COLLIER, ELLEN MAUDE MARY 35
GRO Reference: 1921 D Quarter in WILLESDEN Volume 03A Page 271

Rambling

Rambling Report 25 Feb 2020 17:29

Sarah Collier nee Holt named as mother of Thomas bn Mullingar

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02975/2090049.pdf

from https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2020 17:34

Perhaps you need to buy Robert's birth cert to see who his father was.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:35

Name:
Thomas Joseph Holt Collier
Event Type:
Birth
Event Date:
4 Jan 1878
Event Place:
Ireland
Event Place (Original):
Barrack, Westmeath, Ireland



Name:
Thomas Collier
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: Fulham, London,Middlesex, England
Registration District: Fulham
Residence Note: St Oswalds Road
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Marital Status (Original):
MarriedOccupation:
Travelling Ticket Examiner (Railway)
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Birth Year (Estimated):
1852
Birthplace:
Poona, East Indies
Page Number:
14
Registration Number:
RG11
Piece/Folio:
72/10
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas Collier Head Male 29 Poona, East Indies
Sarah Collier Wife Female 34 Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Emily M A Collier Daughter Female 7 Newport, Essex, Wales
Thomas J H Collier Son Male 3 Mullinger, Ireland
Arthur P M Collier Son Male 1 Cork, Ireland
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
Thomas Collier
Mother's Name:
Sarah Holt Collier

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:38

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Collier Thomas Chelsea 1a 475
Holt Sarah Chelsea 1a 475

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:39

COLLIER, ELIZABETH MARY ANN HOLT
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NEWPORT Volume 11A Page 200

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Feb 2020 17:41

Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)
Collier Thomas 37 Fulham 1a 188

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2020 17:49

I wonder if the RC school where Robert Leo was in 1891 was the orphanage/school connected to this church?
The church is in Cresswell Park.

http://www.stmarysblackheath.org.uk/our-church/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2020 17:55

Robert Leo Collier
in the New South Wales, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1854-1930
Name: Robert Leo Collier
Birth Year: abt 1882
Age: 38
Event Place: Kogarah, New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Desertion
Publication Date: 29 Sep 1920
Page #: 549

A warrant has been issued by the Kogarah Bench for the arrest of Robert Leo Collier charged with wife desertion. He is 38 years of age, 5 feet 6 or 7 inches high, thin build, dark complexion and hair, good teeth, dark moustache, may now be clean shaved; dressed in a dark grey tweed suit, black hard hat and black lace-up boots; was recently employed by the Railway Department as a storeman at Eveleigh; an Englishman; a returned soldier; and addicted to drink.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2020 18:00

He'd put on weight by the following year:

Robert Leo Collier
in the New South Wales, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1854-1930
Name: Robert Leo Collier
Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 38
Event Place: Kogarah, New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Desertion
Publication Date: 8 Jun 1921
Page #: 335


A warrant has been issued by the Kogarah Bench for the arrest of Robert Leo Collier, charged with wife desertion. He is 38 years of age, 5 feet 4 or 5 inches high; medium to stout build, dark complexion and hair; small dark moustache, or may be clean shaved; generally dressed in a grey suit and a black soft-felt hat; a returned soldier. Complainant: Mabel Collier, Crawford Road, Kogarah.


Fascinating - but no help with his parents.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Feb 2020 18:07

Looks like Ellen Maude Mary in 1911:

Ellen Collier
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ellen Collier
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 142 Clarendon Street, Westbourne Sq, Paddington
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Dress Making
Registration district: Paddington
Registration District Number: 1
Sub-registration district: Paddington Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Holt 61 - head, Somerset, grocer, tea & provisions
Catherine Dale 24 - boarder [ Henry George Dale ]
Annie Nally 47 - boarder
Annie Davies 40 - boarder
Edith Rogers 42 - visitor
Ellen Collier 24
Sarah Holt 29 - daughter, single, Paddington
Florence Holt 28 - daughter, single, Paddington
Agnes Holt 21 - daughter, single, Paddington
Philip Holt 18 - son, single, Paddington