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Thank you for that record ArgyllGran

Oh yes - mistranscribed as Wallon on Ancestry:

Julia Wallon
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Julia Wallon
Gender: Female
Age: 9
Relationship: Pauper
Birth Year: 1882
Birth Place: Cannottell [ "Cannot tell" on image ]
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Erdington
Residence Place: Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England
Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Erdington
ED, Institution or Vessel: Aston Union Workhouse
Neighbors:
Piece: 2427
Folio: 107
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Wallon 12
Joseph Wallon 10
Julia Wallon 9
Albert Wallon 7
William Walton 5

I can't see that 1891 census at all on Ancestry.

This is it from FS:

Julia Walton
England and Wales Census, 1891
Name: Julia Walton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Event Place: Aston, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Aston, Warwickshire, England
County: Warwickshire
Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical Parish: ST BARNABAS ERDINGTON
Enumeration District: 21
Registration District: Aston
Gender: Female
Age: 9
Institution: Aston Union Workhouse
Birth Year (Estimated): 1882
Birthplace: England
Relationship to Head of Household: Pauper
Page Number: 41
Registration Number: RG12
Piece/Folio: 2427/ 107
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Sarah Walton Pauper F 12 England
Joseph Walton Pauper M 10 England
Julia Walton Pauper F 9 England
Albert Walton Pauper M 7 England
William Walton Pauper M 5 England

the workhouse was in Aston Birmingham

Albert Avery married Agnes emily Latham

Thank you Lancashire Ann, i will follow up on this, when you say children were in the workhouse in 1891 is that Census record in Aston Birmingham or Salford.

Thank you.

possible 2nd marriage for Thomas

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1893
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office
WALTON Thomas WHITTAKER Mary 1893 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended

in 1939 Mary is possibly living with William & Elizabeth O'Rouke in Salford birth date 26 May 1866

all the children seem to be in the workhouse in 1891 Julia is tyh easiest one to search for)

It is possible that father Thomas was a prisoner

All the children have mother's maiden names as Brookes/Brooks

marriage from FREEBMD

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Brookes Sarah Ann Aston 6d 421 <<<<<<<<<<<
HARRISON William Aston 6d 421
HINSON William Aston 6d 421
Perkins Elizabeth Aston 6d 421
Walton Thomas Aston 6d 421 <<<<<<<<<<<

Thank you all for your replies i wasnt expecting so much extra information, i am helping the grand daughter of Albert Walton i have just logged in to ask for help in finding them in 1891 census. I do know its the right family as 1939 reg names confirmed with his grand daughter. In 1904 Albert son married and 1905 daughter Julia married i cant find parents Thomas or Mary though and other children in 1911.

I find Thomas Walton in 1881 in Aston Birmingham with family
Thomas is 26yrs wife SARAH and 4 children. I think Sarah may have died in 1888 , by the 1901 census Thomas is in Salford but his wife now Mary. Any ideas on who his wives were?

I havent started on the Rorke side yet so thanks for the head start.

1901 - living in Salford


Name Age
Thomas Walton 44
Mary Walton 35
Albert Walton 17 - born Aston Birmingham as in the 1911 census
Julia Walton 19
Joseph Walton 21
Sarah Walton 22
Thomas Walton 24

the banns (from lan-opc

Banns: St Philip, Salford, Lancashire, England
Albert Walton - 21, Bachelor, 15 Corporation Square
Katherine Rorke - 21, Spinster, 15 Corporation Square
First Reading: 20 Nov 1904; Read By: E. B. Hooper
Second Reading: 27 Nov 1904; Read By: E. L. Hicks
Third Reading: 4 Dec 1904; Read By: E. B. Hooper
Notes: Married 17 Dec. '04 E.B.H. [C in margin]

edit - mistranscribed .Katherine is no 1 Corporation Square not 15

From FMP

First name(s) Katherine
Last name Rorke
Sex Female
Marital status Single
Year 1904
Date 17 Dec 1904
Town Manchester
Place Salford, St Phillip
County Lancashire
Spouse's first name(s) Albert
Spouse's last name Walton
Spouse's sex Male
Spouse's marital status Single

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The error is in the transcription - not in the records

Have submitted correction to freebmd

Name: Ann Whyatt
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Whyatt
Mother's name: Rebecca Whyatt
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 2926
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
James Whyatt 43
Rebecca Whyatt 43
Ann Whyatt 17
George Whyatt 14
Elizabeth Whyatt 8
Mary Whyatt 5

Marriages Sep 1864
ROURK Patrick Manchester 8d 301
WHYATT Ann Manchester 8d

Name: Edward Rorke
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1874
Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1898
Marriage Place: Salford, Christchurch, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Christ Church
Search Photos: Search for 'Salford, Christchurch' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Patrick Rorke occ labourer
Spouse: Sarah Davies
Reference Number: GB127.L189/1/2/7

Mary Rorke was a witness

All sorts of spellings

ROAKE, EDWARD WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 95

RORKE, MARY WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 120

ROURKE, ELIZABETH WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 120

Sadly so doesn’t help finding on census
Death
ROURKE, ELIZABETH 0
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 73


Another Girl given same name

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
RORKE, ELIZABETH ANN WHYATT
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 144

Name: Kate Rorke
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pendleton
Search Photos: Search for 'Pendleton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3712
Folio: 106
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Rorke 26
Sarah Rorke 25
Mary Rorke 23
Kate Rorke 21