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Hi,

your all magnificent at finding things cant thank you all enough
Thanks

Well, they certainly travelled together. Good find, Shirley

Did he know Marjorie before ?

Miss Marjorie Pither
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1920
Departure Date: 30 Aug 1950
Departure Place: Southampton, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: Sep 1950
Arrival Place: Melbourne, Australia
Age on Arrival: 30
Vessel: Asturias

Again who does he name as father

Were the informants related

George H Wilkins
Registration Date: Jan 1935
[Feb 1935]
[Mar 1935]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Hannah Hampson
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 232


Hannah Hampson
Mother's Maiden Name: Jones
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: West Derby
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1138

Have you got the actual birth cert for its info

Not seeing a marriage for the parents stated

These are his notes on the BHC registry

d Notes
In LAC BHC Index (travel) as George Henry WILKINS, age 10

Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), April 1932: George Henry WILKINS - Letter - Emigrated 1922

Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), November 1929: George WILKINS - Donation

Canadian Extracts from the Guild Messenger (Dr. Barnardo's Homes), September 1942: George H. WILKINS - Commentary - To Canada 1922. Serving with British Army in Africa. Family in England.

Ups and Downs (magazine published by the Canadian Branch of Dr. Barnardo's Homes, Toronto), December 1943: George H. WILKINS - Commentary - Eleven years in Canada. Now in England. In British Army for 4 years. Wants to return to a Canadian farm.



Don’t know if this link will work

https://www.britishhomechildrenregistry.com/Person/bhcInfo/83860

Sounds like he was a BHC

I am on the British home child site on ancestry as my mums elder half sister was also a BHC in 1909 aged 10


So George Wilkins
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Birth Date: abt 1912
Departure Date: 14 Sep 1922
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Minnedosa
Search Ship Database: Search for the Minnedosa in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Railway
Official Number: 142717
Master: R Sibb

He was with a large group of dr Barnardos children

You can apply for his records if you are a next if kin

They are costly though and can take up to a years to be supplied,
But due to COVID they aren’t accepting any requests at the moment

Hi,
Many thanks for info on birth registration, clears things immensely.

Address almost spot on, listed as 5 Victoria grove Poolton cum Seacombe England

Many thanks
:-D

Births Mar 1912
Wilkins George H .... Duff..... Birkenhead 8a 1063

For a birth in the second half of December, it is quite common to see a registration in the March quarter of the following year.

A copy of the birth certificate would show an address which should help locate the parents in 1911 census.

????
what is the address on his birth cert

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

21 Alfred Road Seacombe Wallasey, Poulton cum Seacombe, Cheshire, England


Albert's occupation

Dock Labourer

13,583 people nearby also had that occupation.
See who they were
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Albert Wilkins Head Widower Male 43 1868 Dock Labourer Hepton Mallet Somerset
Lottie Saunders Illegitimate Daughter - Female 7 1904 - New Brighton Wallasey
Minnie Saunders Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Seacombe Wallasey

Thank you all for the information it is greatly appreciated.
I have only what George put on his Marriage cert. to my grandmother Marjory, (2nd wife).. He has listed his parents as Albert edward Wilkins -dock labourer- deceased and mother as Margaret Duff. And his birth date at 17 dec 1911.
However when cross check cannot find a duff giving birth in 1911 only for 1912
And no marriage link between his parents
So main problem is getting past George to find correct parents and possible siblings.

Again Thank you all very much.

The children were being sent to the Fairbridge Farm School, Molong, NSW, as per their arrival records at Fremantle

Name: Miss Rita A Wilkins
Departure Place: Southampton, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1950
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Vessel: Largs Bay
plus the two boys

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Name: Mr G H Wilkins
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1912
Departure Date: 30 Aug 1950
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Asturias
Search Ship Database: Search for the Asturias in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

LKA--18,Blantyre Road Liverpool 15 Lancs..


OCC liisted as Dairy Farm Hand.

George must have sent the children ahead of him and got them a paid passage>

Til FAIRBRIDGE SOCIETY Hi FAIRBRIDGE SOCIETY Will you give him the same happiness and opportunity as other children at our farm schools in Australia It costs £30 but please send something. This appeal is made through the generosity of a friend. President
07 May 1955 - The Sphere - London, London, England.

Three of his offspring

Name: Master Warren Wilkins
Gender: Male
Age: 13
Birth Date: abt 1937
Departure Date: 31 Mar 1950
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Largs Bay

Name: Miss Rita A Wilkins
Gender: Female
Age: 9
Birth Date: abt 1941
Departure Date: 31 Mar 1950
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Largs Bay

Name: Master George H Wilkins
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Birth Date: abt 1939
Departure Date: 31 Mar 1950
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Largs Bay

Last address in UK
The Fairbridge Society, 38, Holland Villas Road, London

So they were put in some sort of 'care', and shipped off to Australia

https://www.princes-trust.org.uk/about-the-trust/research-policies-reports/fairbridge-society

Three younger children still to account for

In the case I am aware of that could be supposed. Only the child of the first marriage was shown, the child from the second was fostered then adopted after the mother died of birth complications and other children have been found via DNA testing.

The names of the parents and the details of the first child must have been in his personal paperwork. Nothing from his last marriage was shown.

The first child of the marriage to Hannah died in infancy, which fits nicely with 2 closed records on 1939 register

Deaths Dec 1935 (>99%)
Wilkins George T 0 Liverpool S. 8b 129

But only 'as known' to the infomant, one assumes?

The information about George’s parents would have been on his Australian death certificate.

Edit: known children can also be listed

Do you have his birth cert?

If not, how did you find out the names of his parents?

What was his father's occupation?

First wife + two children in 1939
Name: Hannah Wilkins
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 26 May 1915
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 265C Upper Parliament St
Residence Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 16
Schedule Number: 204
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NHOP
Borough: Liverpool
Registration district: 453-5
Household Members: 1

TWO closed records


George is not listed