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Winchelsea House in Weston-Super-Mare

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Francis

Francis Report 30 Mar 2021 08:11

I have a birth certificate for someone born in 1906 in Weston-Super-Mare. The address given is Winchelsea House, Clifton Road. I have checked the 1897, 1902 and 1914 Kelly's Directories but find no mention of this house. Has anyone come across Winchelsea house, Clifton Road, Weston-Super-Mare?

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 30 Mar 2021 09:10

Have you looked for the person / family in 1911 to see if it is still there then?

Do you want to share the name, in case members here can help locate them.?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2021 09:54

I've trawled the 1911 images for Clifton Road - it's a long road!.

Many of the houses have names ( but not Winchelsea House), or else only numbers.
Perhaps the householder didn't bother writing the name, but only the number - which doesn't help you!


There's a Convalescent Children's Home at 23 Clifton Road.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2021 10:12

Can't see that house name in 1901 either.
Maybe some householder had changed the name??
None of the houses have numbers in 1901 - only names.

To look at the various house names, start with the image for this record, and work your way along - assuming you have access to Ancestry or FMP:

Charles A Lye
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Charles A Lye
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Kate Lye
Birth Place: Weston-Super-Mare, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Weston Super Mare
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
Town: Weston Super Mare
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: Riversdale, Clfton Road
Registration District: Axbridge
Sub-registration District: Weston Super Mare
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 2324
Folio: 147
Page Number: 12
Household Schedule Number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles A Lye 38
Kate Lye 34
Frank P Lye 5

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Mar 2021 11:18

Was the mum married ?

Wondering if it was a mother and baby home

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2021 11:29

That's why I mentioned the Convalescent Children's Home - in case that had any relevance in spite of not mentioning any maternity services.. Although, looking at the listings, there are only children and staff there in both 1901 and 1911.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2021 15:47

Somerset Heritage Centre apparently have a plan of Clifton Road dating from late 19th century or early 20th century.

Not viewable online, but you could ask them if Winchelsea House is marked:

https://somerset-cat.swheritage.org.uk/records/D/B/wsm/24/4/31


Or if they have anything at all which mentions it:

https://somerset-cat.swheritage.org.uk/search/all:records/0_50/all/score_desc/clifton%20road

Kay????

Kay???? Report 30 Mar 2021 16:04

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APARTMENTS.
Weston will find comfortable apartments close sea and station; good catering and attendance; moderate terms, with Winchelsea House, Clifton-road^ Weston. f'ECKHAMPTON -To let, furnished. large JLi front sitting-room, also double size front bedroom, 10s. weekly
19 March 1907 - Gloucestershire Echo - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire,.

dont know if this gives any more on the house.?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Mar 2021 17:05

That sounds like a boarding house.

The full sentence is:

"VISITORS to Weston will find comfortable apartments close sea and station; good catering and attendance; moderate terms, with Mrs Allard, Winchelsea House, Clifton-road, Weston."

It's from a column of small ads for accommodation, and the rest of what Kay posted above refers to a different place.
https://tinyurl.com/ch765p3w


However, I don't see any Allards in Weston in either 1901 or 1911.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Mar 2021 12:38

Wonder why the lady went to a boarding house to have a baby ?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Mar 2021 12:42

Perhaps she wasn't intending to actually give birth in the boarding house!

Or maybe she was a long-term resident and it was her home - even an Allard (married to someone with another surname) , for all we know .




Francis

Francis Report 9 Apr 2021 07:31

BRILLIANT!!! I have been writing replies to ArgyllGran but found the way to post my reply here.
First sorry I didn't get back earlier
Second Many thanks to all of you who have replied. Now to AgyllGran - Yes I did check the 1901 & 1911, I also checked the Kelly's directories for 1902, 1914 & 1919. Then I discovered a report that W-S-M renumbered Clifton Road in 1908 so I guess they tended to use numbers from then. I am in touch with someone who lives in the area and they will go to the library & archives when lockdown is lifted.
But now my special thanks to Kay??? for finding that newspaper report/advert (I tried newspapers but never saw that) and to ArgyllGran for the full details. That is the first mention I have seen of Winchelsea House - so many, many thanks. I'll follow that up!!
Now Shirley~I'm getting the hang of it (what beautiful names some of you have!!) - Why the lady went to a boarding house to have the baby. We can never be sure but - she stated the father's name on the certificate and said she was nee Williams which implies she was married. However I have not been able to identify the marriage. I have a similar situation in another family and the mother was sent to another part to have the child which was subsequently adopted. In this case it looks as though the child was adopted by is parental uncle. However now I have some more info I will delve deeper. Many thanks to everyone who thought about this. Thanks
Francis

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Apr 2021 09:49

You're welcome, Francis.

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