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Ali Report 29 Oct 2021 14:51

Afternoon everyone

Need some new ideas

I've searched for donkeys years for Phillis & Jim Townsend but without any luck but every few years i have another go at finding them.

This is what i remember.....when i was a child my parents owned a hardware store called Heathside DIY in Hanworth Road Hounslow......(late 60's early 70's) there was a little road alongside this shop just called "Heathside" (not Road or Avenue etc)

Phillis & Jim lived half way along this road in a bungalow ( I can't remember the number)
I used to go across on a Saturday morning to visit them & Phillis taught me to cook. This lady was heaven sent to me & i adored her.... she was partially paralysed from a car accident when she was young & as far as i'm aware they had no children.

When she died in the early 70's from a stroke i was about 11years old & they gave me her necklace that she always wore ( this little necklace is one of my most treasured possessions ) I have such wonderful memories of them .

I don't know if she was cremated or buried but it was local.

I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps they weren't married as i've never been successful finding them not even living in the bungalow in Heathside.

Over the years i've built several trees & been quite successful with my research this is so frustrating.

Any ideas....... TIA



ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2021 15:31


Deaths Dec 1976 (>99%)
TOWNSEND Phyllis Edith 17NO1906 Hounslow 13 1410

Maiden name should be on death cert


Ali Report 29 Oct 2021 15:42

Brilliant thank you......... this is a possibility as she was an elderly lady in the 70's....if this is her then i would have been about 13/14....i'm sure i was younger, i'll follow this up, thank you so much...... the two bungalows are
still in Heathside i've just looked them up


ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2021 15:45

FMP suggests this is that woman in 1939 - in spite of the difference in birth year 'Jim' could have been a nickname

32 Mexfield Road, Wandsworth, Wandsworth, London, England
Albert Townsend 25 Apr 1908 Male Chauffeur Gardiner Married 156 1
Edith (Phyllis) Townsend 17 Nov 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 156 2


nameslessone Report 29 Oct 2021 15:51

I can’t find when South Ealing Cemetry was closed to new burials but I did find the council very helpful when I was looking for a grave.


Ali Report 29 Oct 2021 15:56

I know they must have been together a very long time because i remember her saying about her accident that she was 21 & they were in a sports car, she was thrown out & her head hit the curb

i've got no way of knowing if he had a different name... he was always known as Jim but could easily of had a different name....

i'll see if i can find a marriage cert for an albert & phillis


ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2021 15:59

The more usual spelling is PhYllis - as per the death record


Ali Report 29 Oct 2021 16:04

thank you yes my spelling error i know its supposed to be a Y :-(


ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2021 16:08

My next door neighbour is ‘Jim’ - his actual forenames are Terence John


ArgyllGran Report 29 Oct 2021 18:33

Maybe a possibility for the marriage of the 1939 couple:

Marriages Dec 1933 (>99%)
Pearce Phyllis Townsend Wandsworth 1d 1246
Townsend Albert E Pearce Wandsworth 1d 1246

In case anyone's looking in vain on Ancestry, this is their mistranscription:

Edith Townsiwt
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Edith Townsiwt [Townsend]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Nov 1901
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 32
Residence Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 36
Schedule Number: 156
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: AXWC
Borough: Wandsworth
Registration district: 24-5
Inferred Spouse:
Albert Townsiwt
Household Members Age
Albert Townsiwt 31
Edith Townsiwt 38


ArgyllGran Report 29 Oct 2021 18:42

With Phyllis Edith:

Albert Edwin Townsend
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Albert Edwin Townsend
Electoral Date: 1935
Street Address: 32 Mexfield Road
Ward or Division/Constituency: Balham and Tooting and Central
County or Borough: Wandsworth, England

Albert Edwin Townsend
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Albert Edwin Townsend
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1908 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration Date: Oct 1987
Registration District: Richmond Upon Thames
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1599

Address at death (per probate record):
The Royal Star and Garter Home, Richmond.

If this is him in 1953, Phyllis isn't listed with him - so maybe a different man:

Albert E Townsend
in the Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1962
Name: Albert E Townsend
Residence Year: 1953
Parliamentary Division/Constituency: Epsom
Residence Place: Surrey, England
Place of Abode: 344

Address: 70 Thorndon Gardens


ArgyllGran Report 29 Oct 2021 18:49

??? Their births:

GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 129

GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 222


ArgyllGran Report 29 Oct 2021 18:56

Albert E and Phyllis E Townsend:

Phyllis E Townsend
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Phyllis E Townsend
Electoral Date: 1959
Street Address: 17 Hounslow [17 HEATHSIDE, Hounslow on image ] <<<<<<<<
Ward or Division/Constituency: Twickenham West
County or Borough: Twickenham, England
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/1035

They're at that address from 1957 until at least 1965, per London ER, which only goes up to 1965 on Ancestry..


Ali Report 31 Oct 2021 17:18

thank you for all your time & help everyone, its very kind of you all & very much appreciated