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Cant find him in the 1921 census

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Suzanne

Suzanne Report 28 Feb 2022 11:32

Thank you so much everyone, I will look into this straight away.

Sorry I've not been Intouch sooner but hubby who has MS was taken ill and hospitalized.



Thank you all

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Feb 2022 08:53

Great finds Shirley. Let’s hope Suzanne returns!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2022 23:01

Sounds a very likely solution to me.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 21 Feb 2022 18:12

Good finds Shirley.......well done it may solve Suzanne's solution.?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2022 17:17

Reg in merchant shipping 1921

1921
Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Great Britain
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First name(s) C H
Archive The National Archives
Last name Goodlass
Series BT348
Birth year -
Date range 1921-1941
Birth place -
Piece number 1
Birth county/country -
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Event year 1921
Category Education & work
Discharge number 959562
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime
Card type CR2
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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From 28/31922 to 9/12/1931

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2022 17:12

With Mary in 1920

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Name: Charles Henry Goodlass
Residence Year: 1920
Street Address: Ritson Street 120
Residence Place: Lancashire, England
Electoral District: Liverpool, East Toxteth


So maybe he was at sea in 1921

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2022 17:06

Charles H Goodlass
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
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Name: Charles H Goodlass
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1884
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 2 Oct 1918
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Carmania
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Crew occ fireman


And again in 1923


Name: Chas H Goodlass
Gender: Male
Race: English
Arrival Age: 38
Birth Date: abt 1885
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 15 Dec 1923
Arrival Place: Portland and Astoria, Oregon, USA
Vessel: Saint Dunstan

Kay????

Kay???? Report 21 Feb 2022 16:47

New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
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Record information.
Name
Chas H Goodlass
Birth
xxx xxxx
Departure
xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxx xxxxxxx
Arrival
x xxx xxxxNew York, New York, USA

needs WW Subs.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Feb 2022 17:12

ArgilleGran

I do have the 1921 census printout, and he's not on it, very strange.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Feb 2022 17:10

Yes, that's him ArgilleGran

but nowhere to be seen in the 1921 census

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Feb 2022 17:08

Thank you both for your help.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Feb 2022 16:31

As already said - the 1898 man was still single in 1939.


I think your Charles in the one born 1885.

Here he is in 1939:

Charles H Goodlass
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Charles H Goodlass
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1884
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 42 Aspen Grove
Residence Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Stevedore Heavy Worker
Line Number: 25
Schedule Number: 25
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NHNI
Borough: Liverpool
Registration district: 453-5
Inferred Spouse:
Mary Goodlass
Household Members Age
Charles H Goodlass 55
Mary Goodlass 58

I'm still inclined to think your Charles is with Mary and Ronald in 1921, but just not transcribed.
But you'd need to see the image in order to know if that's correct or not.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Feb 2022 16:29

Can we just confirm -
When was your Charles born?? Who were his parents?

You've said c1880, and also 1878 - but there's no birth of a Charles Henry Goodlass in either of those years.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Feb 2022 16:26

I've found him on all the censuses since he was a child, but cant find him anywhere on the 1921,but if the transcriptions are so bad then maybe he was there but has not been transcribed for some reason

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Feb 2022 16:25

The 1898 Charles isn't the right one.

He's still single and living with his mother in 1939:

Chas W Goodlass
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Chas W Goodlass
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1898
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 61
Residence Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Dock Cab
Line Number: 9
Schedule Number: 256
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: NHGN
Borough: Liverpool
Registration district: 453-3
Household Members Age
Mary J Goodlass 65
Chas W Goodlass 41
Same Goodlass 37
Harriett Goodlass 30
Florence Goodlass 26
James Goodlass 21
Mary Jane Harper 28


So I suggest your Charles is the 1885 one.
Parents Robert and Margaret, per censuses.

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Feb 2022 16:23

ArgilleGRAN.

SORRY, MISS READ YOUR POST,

George and Mary Ann were Charles Parents

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Feb 2022 16:21

Oh, bloody hell ErikaH No didn't notice was thinking 1878

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Feb 2022 16:20

If the 1898 birth isn't the correct one, there's also this possibility:

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
GOODLAOS Charles Henry Toxteth Park 8b 193

The name is Goodlass on the GRO Index image.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2022 16:18

He’s with his parents!!!

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Feb 2022 16:17

ArgilleGran

I know that Mary(May) was born in 1881 so the 1875 would be too early