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Deb Further to my request re John Jones Census 1861 this is how I read my copy Parish of St Marys Cardiff No 73 .... Road John Jones-head-age 44-(abt 1817)Dock gate man-b. Pembrokeshire Catherine Jones-wife-age 45-(abt 1816)-b. Cardiganshire John Jones-son-age 16-(abt 1845)-sailor-b. Cardiff Benjamin Jones-son-age 10-(abt 1851)-scholar-b. Cardiff ?? Jones age 6-(abt 1855)-scholar-b. Cardiff David Jones-son-age 2-(abt 1859)-b. Cardiff As you can see I can't figure out the street name or the second last child as well as the last one being David b. 1859 when your 1851 census has David b1849 Any bright ideas would be welcome as I would really like to get a lead on any of the remaining family members in Cardiff who might have any information about what it was like when my grandmother, Gwenllian Jones,was growing up there as one of (the Harbourmaster) Benjamin Jones' children between 1890-1910 Regards John of Balmain Sydney

JOHN THIS IS AS I READ IT OFF THE 1861 CENSUS 1861 JOHN JONES HD 30 DOCK GATE MAN BN PEMBROKE CATHERINE?? LOOKS MORE LIKE MARGARET TO ME 40 WI BN THE SAME PLACE AS JOHN ON IMAGE BUT NOT PEMBROKE JOHN SON 16 BN CARDIFF GLAMORGAN BENJAMIN SON 10 BN CARDIFF MARGARET DAVID DAU 6 BN CARDIFF DAVID DAU 2 BN CARDIFF LIKE YOURSELF CANT MAKE OUT ADDRESS LOOKS LIKE GATE ROAD, CARDIFF REGARDS DEBS

Could you please look up Gilbert Walton born 1894 and his sister Florence born 1896 both in Portsmouth? Father is Charles H Walton and mother Agnes Walton whose maiden name I don't know but she was born in Pimlico 1875, thanks Judy

JUDY 1901 GILBERT AND PARENTS AGNES WALTON abt 1875 Pimlico, London, England Wife Shoreditch London CHARLES H WALTON abt 1868 Leicestershire, England Head Shoreditch London BARBER HAIR Charles W Walton abt 1893 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Son Shoreditch London GILBERT E WALTON abt 1895 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Son Shoreditch London THOMAS A Walton abt 1897 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Shoreditch London THOMAS IS FLORENCE A DAU ON IMAGE ITS QUITE PLAIN EOUGH, SO BAD MISTRANSCRIBING address bu???mia st, shoreditch MARRIAGE AGNES LOUISA TINDALL1891 December Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire AND CHARLES HENRY WALTON 1891 December Marriages Portsea Island Hampshire REGARDS DEBS

hi deborah im trying too find out any info on a dennis charles born in wolverhampton about 1884-1887 he got married too a catherine webb formerley catherine martin around1912 they had a son named dennis charles....all info appreciated thanx..kev

Hi Debra Slightly elusive one here as I couldn't pin him down in 1861. Maybe 1851 has the answers. I'm after: John Millward born circa 1814 (allow a few years either way) probably in Wales (somewhere). Some confusion over his birthplace 1871 says Denbigh, 1881 says Derby. The latter should probably have been the former. It's possible 1851 has him listed as borm somewhere else entirely. Can you have a look at 1851 Wales first. I know of one in Flintshire whose wife is Jane Millward. This is not him, he's another one. What might identify him is if he comes up with any of the following occupations: Spiirt Merchant Publican Licensed Victualler or something that says he sells alcohol. It is possible he's in England at that time. If it's not too cumbersome please have a quick look. Thanks eversomuch if you can do this - I have no record of him before 1871 and yet he's such a key part of my family history. Best wishes Jonathan

Hi Debra Many thanks for the offer. I'm in Australia and found it had to acces some info here. I'm looking for George Thomas Pugh Born 1865 in Worcester had the following siblings Poppy (probably a nickname) Floss (? Florence) Stanley Jack Bert with George Thomas Pugh being the youngest. Thanks Nicky :)

JOHNATAN THESE ARE ALL THE ONES IN WALES AROUND THE YEARS YOUR LOOKING FOR BUT NONE OF THEM ARE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALCOHOL 1851 View Record John Millward abt 1815 Abram Brow, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Bedwellty Monmouthshire View Record John Millward abt 1813 St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales Head Brynbychan Flintshire View Record John Millward abt 1809 Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales Head Eglwysilan Glamorgan View Record John Millward abt 1810 Laniltern, Glamorgan, Wales Head Peterstone Glamorgan AND THESE ARE IN ENGLAND 1851 View Record John Millward abt 1810 Alton, Staffordshire, England Head Alton Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1816 Wootton, Bedfordshire, England Head Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire View Record John Millward abt 1814 Birmingham Head Birmingham Warwickshire View Record John Millward abt 1813 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Head Coventry St Michael Warwickshire View Record John Millward abt 1818 Sedgaley, Staffordshire, England Head Darlaston Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1815 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Head Dudley Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1817 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son-in-law Dudley Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1818 Plymouth, Devon, England Head East Stonehouse Devon View Record John Millward abt 1819 St. Asaph, Flintshire, Wales Lodger Garston Lancashire View Record John Millward abt 1809 Stafford, Staffordshire, England Head Kidderminster Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1819 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Kings Norton Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1816 Bewdley, Worcestershire, England Head Kingswinford Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1818 Cottsal, Staffordshire, England Head Kingswinford Staffordshire View Record John Millward abt 1815 Brassington, Derbyshire, England Son Kniveton Derbyshire View Record John Millward abt 1815 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Leeds Yorkshire View Record John Millward abt 1811 Wardick, Worcestershire, England Son Stoke Prior Worcestershire View Record John Millward abt 1816 Tardebigg, Worcestershire, England Head Stoke Prior Worcestershire LET ME KNOW WHICH ONES YOU THINK, AND I WILL LOOK AT THE IMAGE FOR YOU OK REGARDS DEBS

NICKY EED A BIT MORE INFO PLEASE MAYBE AGES OF SIBLINGS OR PARENTS NAMES CHEERS DEBS

Hi Debra Could you look for the following on the 1871 census please: James King - - b – 1810 – Rickinghall Superior Susan King – b – 1814 – Rickinghall Superior (or Botesdale) David King - b-1850 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk George King - b- 1852 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk James King - b – 1852 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk On the 1881 please James King – b – 1852 – Rickinghall Superior Frederick King – b – 1856 – Rickinghall On the 1891 David King - b - 1850 – Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk George King - b- 1852 – Rickinhall Superior, Suffolk James King – b –1852 – Rickinghall Superior Frederick King – b 1856 – Rickinghall On the 1901 – all of the above for the 1891 Thank you Rita

RITA 1871 View Record Fredrick King abt 1855 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Son Rickinghall Superior Suffolk View Record Isabella King abt 1859 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Daughter Rickinghall Superior Suffolk JAMES KING abt 1811 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Head Rickinghall Superior Suffolk BUTCHER MASTER View Record Lousia King abt 1847 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Daughter Rickinghall Superior Suffolk SUSAN KING abt 1815 Rickinghall Superior, Suffolk, England Wife Rickinghall Superior Suffolk NO ADDRESS SORRY THIS IS ALL I CAN FIND AT THE MOMENT REGARDS DEBS

Debra - Grateful thanks, Regards Rita

Hi Debra Can you find this family for me, on 1851? 1861, or 1871 the last 2 Mary Ann probably under the name of Elliott. Father John Thomas Edgeley Daughter Mary Ann Edgeley, born 1838 (Christening: 29 AUG 1838 St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England according to IGI) Mother died per Free BMDs: Deaths Jun 1845 EDGLEY Harriet Greenwich 5 157 I cannot find Mary Ann's marriage under either spelling. Her first husband was Elliott, later she was narried ti George Sheriff or Sherriff on the 1881, 1891, nd by 1901 she was a widow. (can't find her 2nd marriage either. (These 3 census' she is in Southwark area.) Mary Ann born 1881 Greenwich 1891 Lambeth 1910, Greenwich Confusing isn't it. 1891 and 1901 heve the surname badly transcribed as Shariff and Cheriff Regards David

DAVO 1851 MAYBE THOMAS WITH SECOND WIFE MARY ANN EDGLEY abt 1838 Greenwich, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich Kent View Record Sarah Edgley abt 1851 Greenwich, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich Kent View Record Thompson Edgley abt 1822 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Wife Greenwich Kent THOMAS EDGLEY abt 1810 Greenwich, Kent, England Head Greenwich Kent SHOEMAKER address 26 ta???gan grove, greenwich, kent MARRIAGE View Record Edgeley, Thomas 1850 December Marriages Greenwich Greater London Kent London Surrey DO YOU KNOW MARY ANNS FIRST HUSBANDS FIRST NAME, AS THERE ARE THESE IN 1871 View Record Mary A Elliot abt 1839 Greenwich, Kent, England Wife Lambeth London View Record Mary A Elliot abt 1836 Grocenetron, Kent, England Wife St Margaret Kent View Record Mary A Ellis abt 1840 Ramsgate, Kent, England Wife Lymm Cheshire PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL LOOK AT THE IMAGES FOR YOU. DEBS

Hi Debra, Can you please look up a Benjamin Mellodew (b.1842.Rochdale,Lancs),son of John (b.1801). Also John Hollows (b.1828 Rochdale,Lancs) & daughter Esther (b.1856). Much appreciated. regards Dave

please find hugh kielty parents hugh was born 1874? married mary ellen .thanks

Thank you Debra That seems to be the family on the 1851. I don't know the name of Mary Ann's first husband. The first Lady on the 1871 seems to be the correct one. Her second husband was George Sherriff or Sheriff. Mary ann was illeiterate as a son's birth cert I have, says 'X the mark of Mary Ann Sheriff, late Elliott, formerly Edgeley. They seem to spell this with or without the middle 'E', Also in the 1991, George (and Mary Ann) had a stepson, John Sheriff, (mistranscribed Shariff). I believe he was John Elliott. Further, in the 1901 my g/f George Sherriff, son of George, stepson of Mary Ann had an adptoed daughter, Ada Elliott. I suspect that Ada was the daughter of John, but I have used up my budget for certs at present and put that in the list for my next order. Kind regards David

Hi Debra Can you please check the whereabouts of William Doddsand any possible family of his for me. I have him on the 1881 census as 13yr old, son of bartholomew Dodds and Elizabeth Ann Dodds. He was born in Tow Law in durham,. I cannot find him on the 1901 census, The Dodds family had moved address by then from 80 Binchester terrace in 1881 to 62 granville Terrace (both in binchester on 1901 census but no mention of William in 1901 so curious to know what happened to him between 1881 and 1901, Any info greatfully received Nichola

DAVID 1851 View Record Edmund Hollows abt 1859 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire ESTHER HOLLOWS abt 1856 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Daughter Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire View Record James Hollows abt 1853 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire JOHN HOLLOWS abt 1828 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Head Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire COAL MINER View Record Mary Ann Hollows abt 1854 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Daughter Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire View Record Sarah Hollows abt 1829 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Wife Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire CHARWOMAN address cote?? lancs 1851 ohn Butterworth abt 1825 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Boarder Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire BENJAMIN MELLODEW abt 1842 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire PLUMBER AND GLAZIER JOHN MELLODEW abt 1802 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Head Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire ?EASTER View Record Joseph Mellodew abt 1842 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire WOOLSORS View Record Mary Mellodew abt 1806 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Wife Wuerdle and Wardle Lancashire address charles st, lancs if you need anything else please just let me know ok regards debs

LIVERPOOL 1871 census please. Hugh Burns dob c1848/50 he is on the 1861 with parents John and Margaret but not with them in 1871..actually John has a new wife..Ellen!Hugh must have moved out! Thank you.Eileen Lynch