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HAD MINE OUT 20 YR AGO. AVOID FATTY FOOD LIKE THE PLAGUE. ESPECIALLY EGGS. I ENDED UP LIVING ON JUST FRUIT FOR MONTHS BEFORE THE OP. I LIKEN THE PAIN,PRE OP TO LABOUR PAINS IN COMPARISSON. TERRIBLE!
GOODLUCK X

N for the newbie

But like everything if it dont work get it sorted by Hospital
Worth a note that most gall stones never cause any problems at all

I understand what you are saying Liz but personally I'd try everything to avoid surgery!!

And although it sounds extreme.... its actually quite easy to do!

Its extreme.... but after 2 days I felt better than I had done in years!

Liver & Gallbladder Cleanse (without the need for surgery)

Ingredients

½ Cup Extra Virgin Olive Oil = 125ml
1 Big Grapefruit or 2 small Oranges (or 3 Lemons)
4 tablespoon EPSOM salts
3 cups of water (750 ml)
4-6 Ornithine Capsules to help you sleep


Choose a day for the cleanse when you will be able to rest the next day

Take no medicines, vitamins or pills that you can do without – Do take medicines that are essential to your well being

Eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch such as cooked cereal with fruit, fruit juice, baked potato or other vegetables with salt only (no butter or milk). This allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher pressure pushes out more stones.

2pm
Do not eat or drink after 2pm. If you break this rule you could feel quite ill later.
Get your Epsom Salts ready. Mix 4 tbs in 750 ml of water and pour this into a jar. This make 4 serving ¾ cup each. Refrigerate to get ice cold (this is for convenience and taste only.

6pm
Drink one serving (3/4 cup) of the ice cold Epsom salts. You may also drink a few mouthfuls of water afterwards or rinse your mouth.
Get the olive oil and fruit out of the fridge to warm up.

8pm
Repeat by drinking another ¾ cup of Epsom Salts
Get your bedtime chores done. The timing is critical for success; don’t be more than 10 minutes late or early.

9.45pm
Pour ½ cup (measured) olive oil into a pint jar. Squeeze fruit by hand into a measuring cup, removing pulp. You should have at least ½ cup, More (upto ¾ cup) is best. Add this to the olive oil, close the lid and shake hard until mixed thoroughly.
Now visit the bathroom, even if it makes you late for your 10pm drink…. Do not be more than 10 minutes late.

10pm
Be ready for bed and set your alarm for 6am.

Stand by your bed and drink the potion you have mixed. Take 4 capsules of Ornithine with the first sips to make sure you sleep through the night. Take 8 if you already suffer from insomnia. Drink within 5 minutes. (15 mins for elderly or frail person) YOU MUST DRINK THIS STANDING UP.

Lie down immediate or you may fail to get stones out if you don’t. The sooner you lie down the more stones that will be produced. As soon as the drink is down, lie down flat in bed on your back with your head high on pillows. Try to keep perfectly still for 20 minutes. You may feel stones travelling along the bile ducts like marbles (Thank you Epsom salts). GO TO SLEEP.


6am
Take your 3rd dose of Epsom salts. You may go back to bed – DO NOT TAKE THIS BEFORE 6AM

8am
Take your 4th and last Epsom salts.

10am
You may start to eat. Start with fresh juice. Half an hour later eat fruit. One hour later you may eat regular food but keep it light. By supper you should be fully recovered.


How well did you do?

Expect diarrhoea in the morning. Use a flashlight to look for gallstones in the toilet with the bowel movement. Look for the GREEN kind, as this is proof that they are genuine Gallstones. Only bile from the liver is pea green. The bowel movement sinks but gallstones float because of the cholesterol inside… they maybe tan or green. You will need 2000 stones before the liver is clean enough to rid you of allergies or pain permanently. The first cleanse may rid you of them for a few days but as the stones travel forward you may need to repeat the cleanse (2 week interval needed between cleanses) NEVER CLEANSE WHEN YOU ARE ILL

Sometimes the bile ducts are full of cholesterol crystals that did not form into stones. They appear as “chaff” floating in the toilet bowl. It is just as important to cleanse the chaff as purging stones.

PLEASE BE AWARE YOU MAY FEEL TIRED, LETHARGIC OR QUITE ILL FOR ONE OR TWO DAYS AFTERWARDS…. This is just your body ridding itself of cholesterol.

I went to a retreat in Thailand in February and they have a liver flush treatment that is supposed to rid the body of gall stones..... its not pleasant as it involves Epsom salts, olive oil and orange juice..... not all together, but the results are amazing...... it would mean you lying still for quite a few hours and not being able to eat from 2pm to at least 11am the following day!!

I have the recipe if anyone seriously wants it..... PM me and I'll send it to you!

It surely has to be worth a try as they tell me it can mean the difference between having surgery or not!!

Diana
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Yes I,ve had a liver function test today with a number of other bloody tests ....so will wait and see

One of my gallstones got stuck in my bile duct and I
got jaundiced and was in hospital for 19 days until they could sort it out, afterwards had keyhole surgery and now I am as right as rain and not problems

Oooo eck! I'm scared now!
Afew weeks ago I had a pelvic scan (Another prob) and they told me I had gallstones. Haven't had any probs yet though although I have to go have a liver function test cos one of them is quite near an opening that could effect my liver function apparently.
Going to practise the rocking thing right this minute!
Jen

ERCP is av often used non surgical way to remove gall stones
If they do do surgery then key hole surgery is often used
That is if you live in civilization

well i've had mine out hun an thats still a normal day here..lol

OMG......LOL

You can see it houses full of screaming rocking women with gallstones !!!!!!...............

well back to front helped..but hay suppose wat ever helps..lol

By all means screamin may well help too

Rachel - when I had mine, I'm afraid in my day we did not have breathing exercises, you just screamed till it was over. But I know what you mean by that. Can you just clarify for me, which way to rock,is it side to side, or back to front. Really thick at this you know.
Julia in Derbyshire

you want too keep on at ya drs hun mine was fantastic ..

I was in an out of hos loads of times in the end i was that drugged up it was awful...xxx

Rachel ....Thanks hun ...it feels better to know I,m not "Quite" mad yet ....

Yes it has got to that point woth food not sure what to eat but its been like that for many years and the GP said its IBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its the on call doctor who found the problem and did the test ....

Yes and the "on the knees thing really helps !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi hun can Sympathise with you i had my gall bladder removed 2 yrs ago.....

Basically no fatty foods ...... defo no cheese, cream ect...

I got to the stage where is didnt actually matter what i ate ..

I was only waitin 6 months before i had my op Key hole...

I had a very good dr an surgeon...good luck hun.xxx

Ohh also nuts wernt good for me..

If you can remember ya breathin exercises from bein in labour i fount they helped an gettin on ya hands an knees an roockin sounds mad but it does help.xxxxx

Hi KEM,
Dont know anything about gallstones, or any other illnesses for that matter...just want to say hope your OK.

Davexx

Bread is another " bad thing". especially white.

julia .....same here ..........

Thought I was mad for a few years but seems to be part of the patten...

Mine was Balieys but thats gone now to ...tea and water is the best now .......