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Baby Peter's mother, her boyfriend and their lodger have been jailed for causing or allowing the boy's death.

The toddler died after enduring months of abuse in Haringey, north London.

Peter's mother and lodger Jason Owens were given indefinite sentences. She must serve at least five years and Owens at least three years.

The boyfriend was given 12 years over Peter's death and life for raping a two-year-old girl. He must serve a minimum of 10 years.

Old Bailey Judge Stephen Kramer said both Baby Peter's mother and Owens would be jailed indefinitely until "deemed no longer to be a risk to the public and in particular to small children".

Jean - as far as I'm concerned they should all be exterminated forthwith. So, no I dont think justice has been done to that little mite.


Jac xxx

Its beyond belief , after all that poor little soul suffered

Personally i think the laws an ass ...

No, I don't. Also pleased that you called him by his name, Peter. Poor little mite, didn't have much of a life. Now that we know his name, I wish newspapers would stop calling him Baby P.

They should all have the "op" as well - make sure they never have any more children. Or yes, leave her in until she is post-menopausal - that would do it.

Jill

I suspect it's for their own safety and that of their families that their names have not been revealed.

I would love to answer this and have tried several times. But I just don't have the words to express how I feel about these people I really don't.

Poor Little boy :0(

He deserved justice. xx

i cant put what i really think but dusgusting n speechless sum it up politly xxx

I don't understand why anyone would be concerned for their safety?

Jill

I meant for their own safety whilst in jail - quite frankly (and if you read my post) the whole bally lot of 'em should be done away.

I do believe there are other children belonging to this woman, arent there? perhaps that's why her name has not been revealed?

Wasn't questioning you Jac - just couldn't understand why the "authorities" were obviously concerned for her safety.

I suppose if she does have other children they would need to be protected - but I hope she doesn't have other children. Poor things having a mother like that.

Jill

Good grief. That woman obviously does not give a flying fig does she?

The mind boggles!

Jill

Former England cricket star Chris Lewis has been sent to jail for 13 years after he was convicted of smuggling $216,000 worth of cocaine into the United Kingdom.

Where exactly are the 'scales of justice' being used? Certainly not in loss of life cases!

Sue x

Sorry... I was on the phone.

I meant to add that I think it is time that cases as horrendous as this should carry a mandatory life sentence witrh no possibility of parole.

I am pleased that I am not on my own in thinking that our laws can be too lenient at times.

You know what is really sad (apart from the original awful escapade of course, which was horrendous)?

In a couple of month's time, we shall hear of yet more awful abominations like this inflicted on children, with similar milk-sopp sentences being dished out to hopeless inadequate individuals who are no earthly use to anyone or anybody.

Well Im glad that theyve all been jailed,,,,,,,,hopefully the law will carry out the --------Indefinate Sentance--on her and the other one.....he will be held till when ever they feel hes no longer a danger........and she will not be able to go before a parol board for 5 years,but that is no indication she will be released after 5 years.and could be denided release when 5 years is up......

If she had got 5 years she would only have served 2/3rds,,,,,,and been released just after 2 years.

Justice will never be done for the failing of that child..


.how can it ?

I can say, that this time I am with the hang 'em and flog 'em brigade.......and 10 years minimum for raping a baby and having the hand in the killing of a child.......far too lenient....

sally

If a sentence is 5yrs, that is how long someone should be locked away! This early release thing should be abolished, or only available to non -abusive crimes

As for 12yrs + life = Minimum of 10yrs! How on earth do they work that one out.

I oppose the death penalty but in this case I would happily pull the lever myself

No doubt they will be kept in solitary confinement for their own safety - but no one seemed to care about the safety of baby Peter.

Hang them

Liz