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Damn right i would take it !!

You should see the amount of money i' ve been stung for over the years in bank charges........shame daylight robbery by a bank is not a crime lol

Anyway how can they prove you took it? you ask for £20 it gives you £40 but i bet your slip still says you got £20 so it's their word against yours ;O)

Ann, I did say I was joshing.

I was also brought up to be honest, I always give change back if its too much and would never steal anything.

But I think if Banking Bosses and City Workers earning the money they do, buying Porsches and drinking £500 bottles of bubbly on their way home, provide machines that go wrong: TO U G H.

I don't feel that way, Ann. Not about a bank. I was also brought up to be honest and respect other people's property. If I'm given too much change in a shop or undercharged, I fess up, especially in a small shop but if I asked a cash machine for 50 quid and it gave me a 100 quid, I'd skip merrily down the road with my conscience in tact:)))

It was a Tesco machine, can't remember where and the bank has said it wont be chasing people for the money. No wonder people flock to these machines when they hear of it. If the banks don't prosecute it is encouraging them to do it. No doubt some charge or other will go up and we will all pay.

Bernie, I am no way naive but was just brought up to be honest and respect other people's property.

Theft from a business is often seen as a 'victimless' crime.
When I worked for a major retailer, there was a very small percentage allowance for stock loss before the annual bonus was paid to full time staff... anything over that and the bonus was stopped.

One shoplifter ( well two women actually) went from one end of the high street to the other having a dip here and there...their reasoning before the court ( they were caught stealing in Woolies) was that they got fed up of waiting in the queue ( busy close to Christmas) and thought the big stores could well stand the small loss.

But someone always pays, be it in lost bonus for a small number , or raised prices for everyone

Years ago I took £40 out of an ATM inside the bank. I retrieved my card, turned away and realised instantly I had forgotten to take the money. The money had gone; must have been the person behind me couldn't believe his luck. I told the bank staff member and he said if you don't take the money after a minute or so the machine takes the money back so you don't lose it. He checked my account but my £40 had gone to the lucky one.

Dear Ann,

There is a word for lovely people like you - its "Naive".

Can I have your share?

ps. Just joshing.

Still thinking on this, my "conscience" gene is kicking in.

City bank worker's basic salaries rose by 6 per cent in the first half of this year, that's without any bonus.

My conscience gene has just been kicked into touch. Where's this money machine thats paying double? I WANT SOME OF IT !!!!!!

David, surely theft is keeping something that you know is not yours?

BERNIE
YOU WONT GET A FUDDY CHANCE
IM IN FRONT

MONEY COME TO MOMMA

Absolutely and without hesitation or moral trauma. Not theft in my book. Theft is taking something that doesn't belong to you not being given something that doesn't belong to you.

Had another think on this one.

I have just read that Sir Fred Goodwin, (yes, that's right, the guy who took £9 million in bonus from a bank the taxpayer bailed out), is back in Britain. He has hired two PR guys to help "improve his image".


Well I have had my rethink and:


YOU BLOODY BET I WOULD KEEP TAKING THE MONEY !!!!!!!!!!

Hi Eldrick

The concept of "what is stealing?" isn't really difficult - it just means "taking what doesn't belong to you"

More interesting are the lengths that people are prepared to go to, and the consequences......


ie, take a paperclip from work - does anyone care and will I get caught? - no, on both counts. So that's ok, then

take a pen from work - ditto

take a few spare quid from the malfunctioning ATM - mmmmmmmmmm

take a few quid from the cashier at the bank - NO

Sue x

~~~~~~~~~~ back to Diane. xx

It is theft. Official definition - 'dishonestly appropriating the property of another with the intention to permanently deprive that person of it.'

Interesting moral dilemma. Most people wouldn't think of themselves as thieves for doing it, but that's what it is - plain and simple. Don't forget - all transactions are logged and you would be caught regardless of CCTV.

So are there 'degrees' of theft? I don't personally think so. Mitigation, maybe, but the end result is the same, is it not? Maybe the thought that the bank can stand the loss is mitigation in the mind of anyone who did it, but the same could apply to the Great Train Robbery or that big jewellery theft last week. Is taking a pencil or a wad of copying paper from your employer the same? Is stealing a book from Smiths acceptable? They could stand the loss just as much as the bank, surely?

The concept of what constitutes stealing is very interesting!

I'd rush into the nearest branch of the bank and return the lot....


Or not....


Sue x

Muffy I'd love to say no I wouldn't take advantage......but I just don't know. I remember being at an ATM when a young boy was taking out some money and he left a note lying there. OH went haring after him to give him the money but I guess that's different.

Sue xx

no moral dilemma about it YES I would,

WOULD I ,,,HONEST


MOVE OUT OF THE FLIPPIN WAY WOMAN



THINK I GAVE MYSELF AWAY THERE

Oh yes please
>where it happening:}

,,,,,,and I have had 40 extra when two lots of £20 new notes were stuck together few years ago,,,,too late to take it back after I spent it:}}}}}}