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Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 18:45

on Ancestry have a look at this please?

I can't grasp the cause of death for Martha Cannell, Sat 19th Jan 1733 - is it convulsions?

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.Saint+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1733-1734.32&sid=&gskw=&cr=1

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 29 Sep 2009 18:51

not sure luv but it seems to be the same thing written against a load of them
what is that written just to the left of her name??
she's Sunday by the way lol
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Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 18:54

Thanks luv - I think that's who performed the service? There's a lot of consumption but it doesn't look like that.

Just off for some tea;)

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 19:46

What would have been the official term for natural causes viz no idea or visitation from God.

Just a thought!

x

Janet 693215

Janet 693215 Report 29 Sep 2009 20:26

This is what I can see:
Martha dau of Joromo Conoll of MENT pensioner(Mile End New Town)

Think the first word is Debet, latin for owes (I guess the origin of debt) which could mean that the funeral hadn't been paid for? Of course it could just be a cause of death.

I'm not helping much am I?

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 20:34

Whatever that word is ?????? am I right in seeing that it appears when someone's age isn't stated? I have looked at other records to check.

Sue

look at this one:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.Saint+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1733-1734.6

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:00

Hi Uggs
I think it's convulsion... Was told told at FHS that they were so ill and often had high temperatures leading to convulsions that killed them..
Tricia

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:09

Thanks Janet - i didn't know that:)

Thanks Sue and Tricia, I think it must be convulsions - it begins co and it isn't consumption and as you say Tricia, convulsions is most likely

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Sep 2009 21:14

just looked , I think it's convulsions also
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Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:14

ok I've looked at your page and at Sue's page. definitely starts with a C, ends with either tt or lt. the middle looks like onn or om, but I can't work out what any of those combinations could mean! it probably is something like "dunno" maybe in latin or summat, but apart from guessing that, I "dunno" either :-)
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Blue Moon

Blue Moon Report 29 Sep 2009 21:16

It wont help you now but while I was looking for your Martha Cannell's cause of death I came across this,it makes intresting reading.

London Causes of Death in 1700

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1277381

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 21:20

Going to disagree with the convulsions...lol

Why does it appear in 99% of those entries where the age isn't known. Could it be they were already deceased before receiving any medical attention, therefore definite history not known?

It's going to drive me mad now.

x

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:25

that's what bothers me too Sue, why so many with that written next to it when all the others are quite easily decipherable as Dropsy, Smallpox, Broken Leg etc etc - I can't think of anything common enough to be such a frequent cause of death, except where he maybe wasn't told or was told to mind his own business lol
Maz. XX

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:27

Hi Sue M..
I used to think it was wrong too then I asked at Family History Society and the general consensus there was That because people got so ill with one thing and another and no medicines or anti biotics they would get such high temperatures,have many convulsions and die.
That answer stopped me driving myself round the bend anyway! LOL

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:27

It does appear quite frequently next to deaths with ages as well

Thanks Blue Moon:)

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:29

Oh.

Really clear on this page -

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.Saint+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1734-1736.2&sid=&gskw=&cr=1

Often seems to apply to children and it isn't the word convulsions, whether or not that's what it represents..

Uggers

Uggers Report 29 Sep 2009 21:32

Ah, really clear writing here -

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1624&path=Tower+Hamlets.Saint+Dunstan+and+All+Saints.1734-1736.5&sid=&gskw=&cr=1

It's convull

Sue

Sue Report 29 Sep 2009 21:39

Well I ain't eating humble pie 'cos you don't spell convulsions with a double l.......rofl

LittleWhiteDove2022351

LittleWhiteDove2022351 Report 29 Sep 2009 21:41

I know what. god help any body in the furure if they try to decipher all my notes on my family tree----even I can't read them and I scrawled them!
and as for my abbreviations well---no bloody chance... pmsl

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 29 Sep 2009 21:41

I haven't checked each and every record with that same word at the end, but it seems to be for children, or at least where s. or...d.. is mentioned in the wording....

EDIT
Sorry, slow posting as had phone call during writing above.
I thought it looked more like committ....?

Gwyn