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I have found several possible children etc but they are for John's other thread. I have to go now but will be back later to try and follow them up to the present.

I can see John's problem about going forward. Apart from the Kenneth (found earlier) no other possible births of these marriages seem to be in Leeds.

Brilliant Sue :)
Thank goodness I saw this reply as I was in the middle of trawling to find the reference for this one on Free BMD to try and find the groom :)

Marriages Jun 1910 - WARD Alice Maud Leeds 9b 5__

I got these marriages off Yorkshire BMD.


1910

Alice M Ward ----- George Bywater St Aidans Leeds CE29/B/190

1910

Harriet M Ward -- William B Bruce St Aidans Leeds CE29/B/183

1912

Margaret A Ward--William H Reed St Aidans Leeds CE29/B/383

1915

Florence G Ward--Arthur Bonfield St Aidans Leeds CE29/C/66

1916

Elizabeth M --Ernest H Issott St Aidans Leeds CE29/C/151


This must be the way that John Found the marriages...
Hope this helps.

John,

Have you got your grandad's sisters married names and when and where they married.
Plus dates.Please.
Then we can try and trace them.

Hi Christine and Sue.

Thanks for info,My G.G.Grandparents who are interred at Driffield are Thomas Ward 1817-1900 born Kilham &Harriet Watson 1815-1900 born Cherry Burton this part is not my problem .I'm at a loss regarding My Grand Father sister's after they where married etc.I've manage to find his parents my G.Grandparents.My Grandfather died 3 November 1918 @ Kidderminster ,Worcestershire and his Funeral cost was 7shilling's &6 pence which I have the account for.After his death His sister Florence adopted his youngest child my uncle Walter to help Gran cope .Which caused more of a family problem.
Many thanks
John.

1871 for John Ward 1850...

Just look at the name MARY and son's wife.this girl is 16 but I think this is Hannah Maria lying about her age.and Head of Household John Ward born 1812 lying also.

1871 census - household transcription
Person: WARD, John
Address: Sykes Street Sykes Place, Sculcoates, Hull

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census search results 1871 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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WARD, John Head M 59 1812 Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Hannah Wife F 60 1811 Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, John Son M 21 1850 Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Mary Son's Wife F 16 1855 Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
4781 Folio:
38 Page:
24

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
Sculcoates, East EnumerationDistrict:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Sculcoates Municipal Borough:
Hull Address:
Sykes Street Sykes Place, Sculcoates, Hull County:
Yorkshire

1861 for John Ward


1861 census - household transcription
Person: WARD, John
Address: Marvel Street, Southcoates, Hull, Kingston Upon Hull

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census search results 1861 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
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WARD, John Head Married M 49 1812 Labourer Agricultural
York Kenningham VIEW
WARD, Hannah Wife Married F 50 1811 Wife
York Stainforth VIEW
WARD, Charles Son Unmarried M 16 1845 Painter App
York Hull VIEW
WARD, John Son M 11 1850 Scholar
York Hull VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
3580 Folio:
96 Page:
14

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
6 Drypool EnumerationDistrict:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Southcoates Municipal Borough:
Kingston upon Hull Address:
Marvel Street, Southcoates, Hull, Kingston Upon Hull County:
Yorkshire (East Riding)

1861 got Hannah Maria Hildreth.


1861 census - household transcription
Person: HILDRETH, Hannah M
Address: 5, Banner Street, St Marys Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
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HILDRETH, Robert Head Married M 39 1822 Joiner
...
Yorkshire VIEW
HILDRETH, Maria Wife Married F 34 1827
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
HILDRETH, Louisa Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
HILDRETH, Elisabeth Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
HILDRETH, Hannah M Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
HILDRETH, George H R Son M 2 1859
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
HILDRETH, Robert H Son M 0 (2M) 1861
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
3581 Folio:
77 Page:
8

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
7 East Sculcoates EnumerationDistrict:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Sculcoates

Civil Parish:
St Marys Sculcoates Municipal Borough:
Kingston upon Hull Address:
5, Banner Street, St Marys Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull County:
Yorkshire (East Riding)

Marriage of John Thomas and Hannah Maria.


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
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Coultons Ralph Hull 9d 464
Hildreth Hannah Maria Hull 9d 464
NICHOLSON Lucy Hull 9d 464
WARD John Thomas Hull 9d 464

1881 for Alice Maude Ward which is John Thomas and Hannah Maria Ward's first daughter born 1879 Burton Agnes which is Bridlington.



1881 census - household transcription
Person: WOOD, David
Address: Not Numbered, Arundell Street, Southcoates

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
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WOOD, David Head Married M 39 1842 Book Keeper Gas Works
Garton
Yorkshire VIEW
WOOD, Sarah Wife Married F 39 1842
Hull VIEW
WOOD, Thomas L Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Burton Agnes
Yorkshire VIEW
WOOD, William E Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
Burton Agnes
Yorkshire VIEW
WOOD, Henrietta A Daughter Single F 2 1879
Hull VIEW
WARD, Alice Maude Niece Single F 2 1879
Burton Agnes VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4756 Folio:
27 Page:
8

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
Drypool EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Southcoates Municipal Borough:
Address:
Not Numbered, Arundell Street, Southcoates County:
Yorkshire (East riding)



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Have you noticed that Alice M isn't on any census until 1901 in Leeds.
Managed to find her in 1881 will post that next.




1881 census - household transcription
Person: WARD, John T
Address: ?, Burton-Agnes

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census search results 1881 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
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WARD, John T Head Married M 31 1850 Joiner
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Hannah M Wife Married F 25 1856
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Margaret Ann Daughter Single F 0 1881
Burton Agnes
Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
4797 Folio:
31 Page:
22

Registration District:
Bridlington Sub District:
Skipsea EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Burton-Agnes Municipal Borough:
Address:
?, Burton-Agnes County:
Yorkshire (East riding)

1891 census - household transcription
Person: WARD, Thomas
Address: 33, Francis Street West, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull

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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
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WARD, Thomas Head Married M 41 1850 Grocer
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Maria Wife Married F 34 1857
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Margaret A Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Burton Agnes
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Harriet M Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Arthur P Son M 3 1888
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Florence G Daughter F 0 (10M) 1891
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
DRAYTON, Henry Visitor Married M 53 1838 Ship Carpenter
Ryde
Isle of Wight VIEW
DRAYTON, Louisa Visitor Married F 42 1849
Southampton VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3933 Folio:
65 Page:
8

Registration District:
Sculcoates Sub District:
West Sculcoates EnumerationDistrict:
37 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Christchurch

Civil Parish:
Sculcoates Municipal Borough:
Kingston upon Hull Address:
33, Francis Street West, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull County:
Yorkshire (East Riding)

Christine,
This is the family in 1901..



1901 census - household transcription
Person: WARD, Thomas
Address: 78, Samuel Street, Leeds

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census search results 1901 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
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WARD, Thomas Head Married M 51 1850 Joiner
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Maria Wife Married F 44 1857
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Alice Daughter Single F 22 1879
Burton Agnes
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Margaret Daughter Single F 20 1881 School Teacher
Burton Agnes
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Harriet Daughter Single F 16 1885 Invoice Clerk (Clothing)
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Arthur Son Single M 13 1888
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Florence Daughter Single F 10 1891
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
WARD, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 8 1893
Hessle
Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4229 Folio:
90 Page:
33

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
West Leeds EnumerationDistrict:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Matthews

Civil Parish:
Leeds Municipal Borough:
Address:
78, Samuel Street, Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West riding)



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Please come back John and help us out. Where did your grandfather John Thomas Ward die in 1918 please? I have spent half the morning trying to sort this out but I can't find any likely death for a John T Ward in 1918, apart from one in Nottingham and one with the age slightly out in Ashton Lancashire.

Hi John,

If you know they were married at St Aidans church, do you have the cert as that will give her father's name.

Which one of the children are you descended from as I'm finding it very confusing.

Christine

Hi Christine,
Burton Agnes does come under Bridlington,and they where living there at the time also there Grand parents lived on the main st. as wheel wrights/joiners they retired and lived @Skern Rd. Driffield and interred (I have the original interment cards for these two) with them are the names Harriet Wood(granddaughter)her husband Enus Bates there 3 children to which one of these married a Hawcroft who is also with them .I've still to sort this out.

Regards John.

I think this is her birth - Bridlington covers Burton Agnes -

Births Jun 1880 - WARD Margaret Annie Bridlington 9d 346

Hi Christine.
Not sure about marriage although this marriage was at St Aidan's church like the sister's ,Arthur's alas was at Gainsborough!!.
In my late fathers belongings he did have the interment cards for his Great Grandparents which is for Driffield cemetery and this made it easy to trace the family from there backwards .But his Grandparents and family its hard going.I visited church and cemetery (Oct 2009)at Cotton Stones where they are buried but a number of headstones you can't read and the Vicar is unfortunatly a very busy person but at least i know where they are. Alice Bywater (ward) daughter record the deaths of both ot them but again I'm unable to trace her after 1936.

Cheers for now.

John.

Finally found them in 1881 although doesn't help with tracing later. Are you sure that is her marriage to Reed?

881 England Census
about Margaret Ann Ward
Name: Margaret Ann Ward
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John T.
Mother's Name: Hannah M.
Gender: Female
Where born: Burton Agnes, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Burton Agnes
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bridlington
Sub-registration district: Skipsea
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John T. Ward 31
Hannah M. Ward 25
Margaret Ann Ward

Christine