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StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 9 Apr 2010 11:59

anyone got any tips??????

i dont like horse racing i think its cruel, "hides from eldrick" but im a total hypocrite because i always have a couple of 50p bets on the national,

and let the baby pick a few horses,xxx

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 9 Apr 2010 12:02

lol, i never win anyways lol, xxx

Meryl

Meryl Report 9 Apr 2010 13:43

Newspaper, pin, shut eyes, stick pin in. Thats the horse for me!

Julia

Julia Report 9 Apr 2010 13:51

Stray Babes, some of my rellies were horse trainers at Newmarket, before going on to train horses for the Kaiser. One son of the family went on to have 9 German Derby Day winners, and his horse, Oleander was pipped at the post in the French Pre Du Lac DeTriumph. Another son, trained many Scandinavian Derby Day winners. On the other hand, me dad regularly takes the local bookie for a ride.
There, that is as much as I know about horses, except they are lovely creatures, and there are a couple in the field that comes up to the back of my house.
I know nowt about backing them, and have never been in a bookies in me life. In other words, I think the Grand National is more about pot luck, when it comes to betting
Enjoy tomorrow.
Julia in Derbyshire

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 9 Apr 2010 14:22

lol,miss minton, im kinda like that haha
i tend to pick a front runner, and a looser,

i think your right julia, defo pot luck, poor horses xxx

Kay????

Kay???? Report 9 Apr 2010 15:12

yep dont feed the cruel people who allow this and other horse races to take place,,
hope none have to be put down again through greed,,,,,
give yer cash to a good cause ........

me,:}

Meryl

Meryl Report 9 Apr 2010 15:25

I think the horses enjoy the race, why do they continue to run and jump fences when the jockey falls off? No horse racing means no horses, they would all be destroyed and used as dog food.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Apr 2010 15:29

I cannot bear to watch it!! so many horses get injured or have to be put down

Meryl

Meryl Report 9 Apr 2010 15:30

Very few are destroyed as the course is made safer and safer each year.

Meryl

Meryl Report 9 Apr 2010 15:35

I love the beginning of the National as the horses are being lined up ready, you can see the horses are raring to go, they love it.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 9 Apr 2010 16:09

Yes and when they get a bit tried or want to catch their breath or may have stitch,what happens they are given a stinging whip on the rear,even when they are frothing at the mouths........yep who be a race horse eh,,,,,,get your sides kicked,whipped,have a lump of iron in your mouth to pull your head back, if you give a little flutter,,,,made to jump for than you can ,maybe fall and have a gun put to your head,,,,,,,,,no more lazy days in pastures green,

the the £ certainly puts a great price on its life....

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget

TessAkaBridgetTheFidget Report 9 Apr 2010 20:26

I saw the end of one of the (late ) races at Aintree today, in which two horses died. Don't know about any of the other races.

I fell a little hypercritical as I usually watch the National and often pick a couple of horses (Since my mum died I tend to pick one for her, as she used to bet on the National).

However, to salve my consience, I don't put a bet on at all.
I would feel, if one of the horses I bet on died, I would be partially responsible. As I don't put money into the pot, I make no difference to the race being run or not.
We all know that the horses only run because there is money to be made.

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 10 Apr 2010 02:35

I have a tip Stray......Keep yer money in yer pocket!


Me old man used to spend every penny he had on the horses.....we were 'never' rich!....in fact the word poverty was in the family History.....Keep yer money to yourself........But!!!...if you see a horse that has the word 'ROYAL' IN IT'S NAME....BACK IT!!! lol!

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 10 Apr 2010 14:26

Yes,I agree with Kay and KatieW.
Anyone who thinks its not cruel must either be simple or in the horse racing game;-)))

Meryl

Meryl Report 10 Apr 2010 15:05

I don't think it is cruel, you can't force the horses to run and jump, what is that saying..... you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
They also get better treatment than we get on the NHS, they are treated like VIPs. Best of every thing.
If you stopped horse racing what would happen to these horses, they would not earn their keep so would most likely be destroyed.
There are dangers in all sports, should they all be banned? Horses enjoy running.

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 10 Apr 2010 17:59

What utter rubbish! it is cruel and its out dated and just pure greed there is no love involved with these animals only shallow people out to make money from animals once again!

one day it will come to an end once enough people come to understand that the human race do not own the rest of the animal kingdom, some humans make me sick! and the world would be far better with off without 90% of them!

Meryl

Meryl Report 10 Apr 2010 18:40

So what happens to all these race horses when racing is abolished? Abattoir? Maybe they will be joined by the 90% of humans who need culling? Then nature and animals can take over the planet and it will be all fluffy and Disney like.

UzziAndHerDogs

UzziAndHerDogs Report 10 Apr 2010 18:47

Yes the national may be cruel but asking horses to race isn't. Without the national many horses would be destroyed anyway. Every one wants to breed a winner.
What is cruel with crops etc is when you see the strike marks on them, most jockeys do know when their horse has given all and do not strike them.
I sit on the fence with this one as I am anti gambling and anti animal hurting but the national is being changed so it isn't so dangerous.

I would love all horses to run free but then we would be over run and a wild horse is nasty. So ....

Roxanne

Roxanne Report 10 Apr 2010 19:02

Well what happens when a horse is injured now? does it get treatment or a bullit through the head? that's easy isn't it :-)) No money, once the animal is injured is there! so off to the abattoir!

I am not a fluffy person,Miss Minton! I'm just anti abuse and anti exploitation! why do people always say that Animal rights people are Fluffy! we are anything but believe me well not the ones that get things done any way;-)) and before someone says anything No I am not the sort that believes in terrorist actions to get things done,those sort of activists are just stupid and as bad as the animal abusers.

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Meryl

Meryl Report 10 Apr 2010 19:25

Uzzi I agree with alot of what you say. They would be destroyed and they do enjoy the race. Today at the start of the National a white horse would not let the jockey on and held the race up a little. When he did finally get on and the race started that horse refused and it did not run. You cannot force a horse to race. Many whose jockey came off and the horse fell over, quickly jumped up and ran along with the other horses having a great time. The jockey is a bit over the top with the whip sometimes I agree. Races like this have the RSPCA there from when the horses arrive and they do inspect them. People say it is cruel if the horse falls, that is life, all people and animals face danger everyday and accidents happen everyday. Horses just can't run free and do need care from people for their feet etc.
Roxanne when a horse breaks a leg it is cruel to keep it alive and a leathel injection is the kindest thing for it. The same if it had had an accident on a farm or in a field.
Horse racing creates jobs and teaches those close to them how to care properly for these beautiful animals.
Horses for courses.
I don't think all animal rights people are fluffy, I just think they sometimes don't see the big picture and just see a cute animal.