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Discuss....when people criticise and hate, based on people being' different' or somehow 'inconvenient'...compassion and basic bloody human kindness get thrown out the window... no thought that because someone isn't 'like you' they don't share the same rights to live or love or even warrant a degree of sympathy and an effort to understand what has made them who they are .

Isn't that the mark of a civilised society? that it can 'embrace' not just 'tolerate' differences?

rant over will probably delete...but I think I just found a way out of depression... lol out with depression in with anger!
:)

xx

What you've described isn't a lack of compasion Rose, it's ignorance!!
The most highly educated of people can be ignorant - and many are!!
Can't see further than their own noses.

As for anger to overcome depression - go for it! LOL
I regularly rant to friends on the phone about the cr*p I've heard MP's coming out with on the radio etc.
Have to say, some politicians have no idea of the 'real' world and are therefore ignorant.
It's their job to work for us 'common' lot - but if they've no idea of our problems ie a lot of us earn less than some of them receive in allowances - and they don't seem to care - they're ignorant.

A rant gives me a wonderful feeling of freedom - and quite often the friend I'm ranting at agrees with me - which makes me feel even better!!

Maggie is right, it is ignorance and there is absolutely nothing you can do to change that Rose.

But, personally, I am very happy to see you have shaken off depression and embraced anger....much more healthy:)) BC XX

It is ignorance or fear. Fear that they don't know how to handle the situation, or fear that the situation could somehow impact on their lives. Ignorance of how to deal with it, or ignorance - not understanding. or ignorance not wanting to understand. Of course it might be easier to discuss a specific.

Oh and..... "out with depression and in with anger...." deep breaths

Or if you watched the doctor films "big breaths".

To be honest I see compassion and kindness all around on a daily basis. I do see ignorance too but on the whole people are good and a lot of people do try very hard to understand. If you think I'm idealistic I'm not but this world is a wonderful place and it can be very depressing to focus on the bad and brush aside the good.

Sue x

I must admit I have developed a habit of not listening to the ignorant, uncaring ones. Too much negativity drags me down and I don't want to be dragged down. At work I put headphones in and listen to the radio or a cd just to blot out some of the cr*p.

But, does that make me guilty of lack of compassion in my own way? Worrying.

Jill

Ann - Yeth and I'm only thixteen

If it's fear, then is it fear of the unknown?
If so - there's a simple way to overcome the fear - learn about it - then it won't be unknown!!!
Some people, however, prefer to live in their ivory towers sl*gging off everything they don't understand.
When it comes down to it - it's their loss!!!
Perhaps - through compassion - we should feel sorry for them!!

oooh Matron!!!

Ah - now I know what has prompted this thread Rose:-(

Sue xx

I WONDER ARE THEY LIKE IT IN THEIR OWN WORLD.
DO THEY HURT AS MUCH AS WHEN THEY CANT SEE
SOMEONE,ARE THEY AS BRAVE FACE TO FACE AND
ON THEIR OWN,OR DO THEY NEED A SCREEN IN
FRONT OF THEM,
IF THEY ARE THE SAME .................I FEEL SORRY FOR
THEIR FAMILY,BECAUSE CHILDREN LEARN FROM THEIR PARENTS
GROW UP WITH HATE BREEDS HATE
GROW UP WITH LOVE
BREEDS LOVE

GOOD NIGHT ALL
DIZZ XXX

I don't think it's compassion that people lack so much as imagination - and a decent newspaper.

No, compassion isn't dead and buried Rose, but sometimes it seems as though it is in short supply.


As has been said, most of the negative issues seem to stem from the media as they tend to focus on more 'bad' than 'good' stories. It can become very depressing if one allows oneself to be dragged down by it.


Sometimes people are intolerant because of their ignorance or because they feel inadequate - they don't understand and so they criticise.


However, on the bright side, I see a lot of love, compassion, kindness and humour round about me most days, and I am sure many others do too.


If we try and focus on the things which are good and true and helpful and even funny, then it helps to keep life in perspective.


Anger......? Can be destructive if not properly channelled, but there's nothing wrong with righteous indignation :))


Take care. Cx

Think most peeps are very selective when it comes to “people being different” all the different cultures around the world, do’s and don’t, some you can show compassion for but others NO WAY, so each culture to its own and don’t try to understand why they do the things they do

But if someone from a more barbaric (in some ways) culture no longer wishes to continue to be a part of the cruelty, or is hunted and treated worse than an animal, then they have the right to try to escape from that... and we have a responsibility... actually legally, not just morally... to help these people lead a life free from persecution and the threat of execution and violence. If that means giving them a new life here, then I am proud to be a part of that, and proud to welcome them into our *family*.

I mean to say, we have procedures in our schools and workplaces to deal with bullies... and tyranny is just an extreme form of bullying.

Love

Daff xxxxx

You got that right Rose...this board shows it so many times!

Gill whose only allowed to post on certain threads.

mmm but i don't think we can become "SANCTUAY" for the world, they have to find a way to change, like we have over the centuries.

RB, maybe "over the centuries" ( hopefully sooner ) they WILL find a way to change...but only if the example set by more democratic 'liberal' countries is shown, only if people here ( in the West generally ) say

"We find this unacceptable and we will stand up for those who are made to suffer. It has to stop and until it does we will take the people who are in danger, because we believe we have a moral duty"

I believe I have a moral duty to help people in need ...not because I am a ( nominal) Christian...the Good Samaritan and all that...but because I am a sentient being and understand pain, and fear and despair.

The thing is, RB, that usually only happens as a result of force, and/ or over the years, but these abuses are happening NOW.... and what happens then? Oh yes, I remember now...

*what are we doing in Iraq/Bosnia/Yugoslavia/Falklands/Afghanistan*?

So.... which is it to be? Overthrow tyranny, or provide sanctuary? Me? I believe in both.

And yes, we can try to give Sanctuary to as many as really need it. We have enough of our own who emigrate to other countries... I think statistically there are more doing that than staying, and the numbers have been fairly static over the last few decades, so nothing to do with escaping this country. Except for the odd few criminals on the Costa del Sol, and elsewhere.

Love

Daff xxxx

Gill, you have not been disallowed or refused permission to post anywhere.

Its not that long ago when Saturday morning entertainment was a good burning at the stake or hanging, then came along the Saturday matinee then swap shop, lets go back must have been much more fun. lol

Selfishness, they say, is the source of all evil.