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I should add that I don't disagree at all with checking pawnshops. If you don't know the parents (or their companions), you can't know what they might do. I too have retrieved items from pawnshops, and the police strongly agreed with the idea of checking them, one time I had a break-in -- and agreed with my first choice suspect pawn shop, a supposedly respectable second-hand jewelry store on the main street -- I had already learned the hard way. Unfortunately, that time I did lose a ring of my grandmother's I'd had since childhood, as that time it wasn't the alcoholic cokehead partner who took it; two of his friends broke in when they knew we were away.

Sounds like one of those things like cervical biopsies ... losing ancestral jewelry of purely sentimental value to dirtbags ... happens to a lot of us women.

I had some jewellery stolen by the friend of a chap I knew slightly, they were decorating for me a few days before I gave birth to my son and he slipped a small jewellery box into his pocket when he went upstairs to use the loo. I reported it to the police but had to traipse round some pawn shops and jewellery shops myself, my rings were traced and returned to me and the chap was taken to court as the description of him selling the rings fitted with my information about him. Obviously the police went to the chap I knew about it and he told them where his pal lived, he was so angry with his friend for taking advantage of me, when I was giving them some work for a few days.
I also had some jewellery stolen years before that by my then partner's brother, he had been lodging with me, my partner was working abroad and his bro wouldn't pay me any rent so I locked him out of the house. He broke in when I was at work and stole some things, one was an unusual ring from Ratners, so not expensive but my Mum had bought it for me for one of my 21st gifts. I never got it back - I think he must have given it to a woman or sold it in another town that he went to. It was very upsetting to lose something so sentimentally important to me so I completely understand how you are feeling. Even if I could have bought a replacement it wouldn't have had the same meaning to me.

I do hope somehow this ring turns up, it's sad that the young girl has been tempted to steal it and worse that her parents don't seem to be able to get to the truth and return the ring.

Lizx

Some parents can be very funny if their child has stolen something. My son had his bike stolen some years back and it was traced to boy who lived nearby. His father was perfectly aware that his son had come home on a bike that didn't belong to him but he told the police that he thought he'd borrowed it. He didn't even question his son about it.

I hope you get your ring back but I really doubt it. Maybe the best you can hope for is that the girl has learnt a lesson.

Sue xx

Janey,

I think I will check that out with my solicitor, I have nothing to lose.

I'll let you know what is said.

Dee, I'd get advice from an actual lawyer about that "harassment" nonsense. You have very good reason to believe that something was stolen from your house by a child, and the fact that you have reported the theft to the police doesn't actually mean you are barred from doing reasonable things to recover your property, I wouldn't think.

What if you wanted to sue the parents for the value of the ring? Is that harassment?? I think not!

In fact, I think I might just let that idea slip. Let the father know you need the mother's name etc. because you will be suing both of them.

If someone drove their car into your house and smashed up your porch (hey, that one actually happened to me, although it wasn't smashed), of course you'd call the police. You could also sue the person who did it. And before doing that, you could contact them and demand compensation for your loss. (Being insured doesn't stop you from suing somebody, either.) That really is not harassment.

If you had no reason at all to believe the child took your property, well whatever. But you have excellent reason to believe that, like the fact that she was seen with it and there is no other imaginable explanation for the loss.

Police do talk nonsense at times. A real lawyer would be better. I might not suggest it except that you really do want your ring back -- how understandable! -- and not just the insurance payout.

Hi Everyone,

sorry for the delay, hubby took me and the kids out for the afternoon... which tuned into the mid evening. Bless him, he knows how upset I am and has tried to take my mind off things.

My friends brother in law is a policeman, and she has spoken to him (he's in a different county), she's told him that I musn't speak to the girl or her parents as this can be seen as harassment and as he also pointed out I have no proof and I could be paid a visit from the police myself!!!! Unbelievable!!

So now I have to leave it in the hands of the police. I have however informed all my local friends about what has happened and those who used to let their children play with this girl have decided that maybe they shouldn't anymore.

The Leith Lassie, I don't think it's been stolen to order I think this girl has thought what a pretty shiny ring it is and thought that she may like it, so she took it. And I also think Shirley that you maybe right that she may have panicked and disposed of the ring..... so ***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** I am going to have a very long conversation with St Anthony tonight, maybe he can help??

Janey, I was hoping that the parents may find the ring and have the convictions to return it, but like my neighbour said " if it did turn up with the girl now, would Mum and Dad do the right thing? Or would they protect their daughter?" Catch you later Hun on them other boards. XX

Kempinasunhat, another honeymoon.. sounds like a very good idea, 1 question though.... can I change the groom?? No only kidding, bless he's been an angel.

Susan, it is such an awful feeling and I wouldn't wish it on anyone and I can totally understand how you and your son felt.


I will keep you undated, but for now I'm going to bury myself into them other boards and do some ancestor digging...... not my own though. Helps to keep my mind off things, save some for me Janey.


Dee xx

Ohhh, am soo sorry to read this.
I had a similar experience a few years back.
I bought my son a plain gold band ring, with a single diamond for his 21st birthday.
Same scenario.......had a ten year old child in the house the day that my son left his ring on his bedroom window sill.
There were only three people in my house that day, me, my son and the 10 year old who my son let into his bedroom so he could play on his computer.
Ring gone, searched the bedroom with a fine tooth comb.
I know that he took it but i could not prove it.
It still sickens me today just thinking about it.......... would he have taken it to a pawn shop? No, i doubt it. I think he either just sold it for the price of an ice cream or got so scared, just through it away!!
I thank God too Dee, that you still have your Grandmothers wedding ring.

So i suppose there is something to be said for that.................. Susan

I,m so pleased you rang the Police ..but you may have found that the insurance company would need you to report it .

I learnt this lesson may years ago and I,m sorry but I now lock my room and keep my rings in a safe !!! unless on me and thats only when we go out !!!

Dont let the child in your home again this to is sad but how else can you stop it

yes you can buy another one ...but could be a good time to take some time for you and hubby to renew your vowels or even take a second honey moon .....

come on give this cloud a silver linning
xxxx

whoops it double posted !

Cant see her owning up now as she knows she will be in big trouble ,sorry to say I think she will dump it somewhere so she isnt found with it.

My commiserations cos I would be gutted too.

I think this could've been stolen to order.
Visit the pawn shops and gold dealers in the area and take a foto of the ring if you have one.
This kid could've innocently been talking about sparkly rings, like any young lass would, and been coerced into taking it.

I don't think all the blame lies with the kid.

Horrible, Dee.

PM one of us TTFers the kid's name and her father's name, and we'll get the mother's name and address and phone number in no time flat! Not that you couldn't do it yourself. ;)

The police are at least going to go talk to the kid and mother, I trust.

You might also mention how you are going to tell the parents of all the kids' other friends what happened -- just, how odd, the kid was visitng and the ring went missing ...

The kid's young enough not to have decent impulse control in the face of a very shiny object, and to be too afraid now to come clean. But the parents are way more than old enough to know better.

Oh Dee. I am so sorry to read this.

I hope you can get it back, and get to the bottom it this mystery.

xx

nooooooooo dont resighn yourself to if going,

i read once in a spooky magazine i read, patron saint of all missng things is st anthony, and to ask him to help you find what ever missing,

on a more likely note ,
having had experience of little girlys,
try saying to her , did you see it anywhere over weekend, maybe on carpet, or something,
or maybe it slipped into her bag when she was putting things away to leave,
see if she confesses then,

i hope so,
tell her it would help you because your so upset at missplacing it,
theres ways to trick a 10 year old into confessing,
good luck with it

Afternoon everyone,

thanks again for your messages.

Police been and insurance informed.

Police will follow up on what my 7 yr old has told thenm, but as they have informed me it is 1 childs word against anothers so obviously it makes it quite a difficult issue.

I think I'm now resigned to the fact that it has gone, Ok I can buy a new one put it's just not the same. I just thank God that my Grandmothers wedding ring was taken, now that I couldn't have bared.

So it's chin up and remind myself that things much much more worse are happening to people everyday.

Dee xx

Sorry about your loss,hope it is resolved OK. don,t forget to notify your insurance people.( Household Policys sometimes cover it ).**M**.

Hope today goes ok Dee.

I'm so sorry Deexxx

I hope it resolves itself.




we had something similar happen almost 20 years ago.

Invited friends to dinner, with their son (aged about 21 or so)

They arrived without him, he phoned later to say he was coming and "oh I have a girl with me"


My daughter had left her rings in her usual little dish in her (and guest) bathroom. Usually put them away when we had guest, but had forgotten on this occasion


Two days later we discovered that the silver ring she had bought with money left to her by my brother had gone walkies. It was a lovely First Nations engraved one.

We almost tore the house apart ... no sign of it.

Great suspicions, but no proof ....... and compounded by the fact that the boy's parents didn't know the girl, and were furious about him bringing her.

She might even have been a pickup off the street, although he did say he knew her.


Daughter has never forgotten it .... but has steadfastly refused any offer to buy her another First Nations ring, because "it wouldn't be the memory of Uncle Frank".



sylvia
xxx

Good luck with it Dee, I'm sorry that it has happened to you.

I hope you get it back and all is well.

Thanks Sue,

Going to bed now, probably wont sleep well tho.


Dee x