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At what point did the british bun turn into a cupc

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Christine

Christine Report 21 Sep 2010 20:08

dont think they know about blackpeas either in yorkshire

LancsLass

LancsLass Report 19 Sep 2010 23:55

Think Ive come to the conclusion that this is all regional!! lol

but it doesnt excuse bringing the word Cupcake into the British language- and it takes over everything.

...and just to confuse the issue more when I buy the cases to cook the fairycakes/butterfly cakes/cupcakes/muffins they're called

Bun cases!!! Or have they changed that too! :-(

Libby

Libby Report 19 Sep 2010 19:55

A barm cake is i big flattish bread roll with a floury top.

A bap is a soft bread roll.

A crispy cob is a crusty bread roll.

A bun is a sweet bread roll with fruit in.

An iced bun is a finger roll with icing on top.

A teacake is like a flattish bun..

Think I have confused myself.

From an exiled Scouser, living in North Wales.

Jean (Monmouth)

Jean (Monmouth) Report 19 Sep 2010 19:25

Perhaps the name came in at the same time as a railway station became a train station!
A tea cake to me is a slightly sweet bread mixture, made in a flat round shape, generally divided into quarters, has frit in it and more fat than bread. Lovely for Sunday tea with jam on.

Cooper

Cooper Report 19 Sep 2010 18:54

Down here in the south, little cakes were known as buns, butterfly and fairy cakes the same as Chris described.

Cup cakes are the creations which are sponge with sickly icing on top. I bought some from a well known high street shop and they were so sickly and sweet that no one in the house could eat them including sweet toothed, cake loving Children!
American Muffins are ok but cup cakes, yucky!!!!!

Teresa:)

ChrisofWessex

ChrisofWessex Report 19 Sep 2010 15:57

A barm brack in N.I. is different to a barm cake here. The floury barms here in south are called scots bap.

Elizabeth2469049

Elizabeth2469049 Report 19 Sep 2010 14:22

Are your oven bottoms the same as our North-eastern stotties?

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 19 Sep 2010 10:48

Thats intresting Gwyn, i was always led to believe it was a Sussex sport.....prehaps it originated here and spead in to the neighbouring Counties.


Nicky

ChrisofWessex

ChrisofWessex Report 19 Sep 2010 08:48

That is an butterfly cake learned to make them at school, fairy cakes just have fruit in them or plain with icing on top. In my neck of the woods anyway and in my very, very old cookbooks.

Those larger cakes - which I have seen called cupcakes are what the North Americans call muffins and you can buy bun cases and the larger muffin cases in any supermarket.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 19 Sep 2010 08:19

Joining you Southerners in the confusion here...

A fairy cake....
to me is a light sponge cake( sort of mini Victoria sponge recipe) but made individually in cake cases or tins with individual sections to produce a similar shape.
They may be iced or not.
If they have the top cut off and that piece cut in half,and cream added then it's a butterfly cake.

A bun is bread-like,
...as in hot cross bun
A tea cake is similar, but flatter.

A muffin is also sort of bread and is split and toasted.


Nicky we played stool ball at primary school, but we weren't far along the coast from you.( Hampshire)

Gwyn

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 19 Sep 2010 00:50

With you on this all the way Carol.....



Nicky

LancsLass

LancsLass Report 19 Sep 2010 00:45

Yes the Corrie cast are not showing it how it is!

In the pub at lunchtime then driving a sewing machine- health & safety would be in, in a flash!

As for the big Barm cake and cream cakes too- cholestrol city! Perhaps thery're building up to a big heart attach epidemic!

Never heard of Stoolball!

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 19 Sep 2010 00:40

Barm Cakes may be big, but they obviously arn`t filled with calories as the factory girls in Coronation Street live off them and beer in the Pub after and stay as slim as ever...LOL

Its funny how things can be regional....down here in Sussex we have a sport Stoolball...not played anywhere else, its played in schools and all the local villages
have teams that play in a league, but go anywhere else in the Country and they`ve never heard of it...


Nicky

LancsLass

LancsLass Report 19 Sep 2010 00:28

Shame on you nicky lol.

You can get a full english breakfast on a barm cake - sausage, bacon, fried egg, beans- only for the tough northerner though!!

Couldnt stomach one myself!

Barm cakes are big- need 2 hands to eat one!! hahahaha

Sylvia

Sylvia Report 19 Sep 2010 00:27

HI Lancslass,
I am also from lancs, and have Irish ancestors. Now I have been in yorkshire for 26 years, and when I moved here I asked for a plain tea cake, I got some very strange looks, and oven bottoms, well they had no idea.
Sylvia

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 19 Sep 2010 00:24

My father was born in Lancashire within a stones throw of the old Manchester City Stadium, as was his mother, but the family moved to South London before he was 10, so didn`t even have a Lancashire accent.


so despite Lancashire blood running through my veins i still didn`t know what a Barm Cake Was...Lol


Nicky

Captain Pugwash

Captain Pugwash Report 19 Sep 2010 00:23

It's in the pipe line to ban it I think Nicky. As for Ja**a cakes Lancs Lass think thats ongoing.!! You think they would spend their time with more important things would'nt you!!!!!!!! Cos at the end of the day we will still think of them by their original names, wont we!!!

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 19 Sep 2010 00:19

Remember reading something about Jaffa cakes and trade description a while back...they are made of sponge so technically are a cake...but are sold in shops with all the other biscuits.

Isn`t this all just plain crazy???


Stop this World i want to get off!!!!!



Nicky

LancsLass

LancsLass Report 19 Sep 2010 00:19

Oh yes- born and bread with 200 years of family history in the same place!! (with some elements of Irish thrown in for good measure)

Nickydownsouth

Nickydownsouth Report 19 Sep 2010 00:16

Checked out your link Lancslass...


so your Oven bottoms are only available up north then?


Are you not still up there then.?


Nicky .