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A school in the South I think it is, is bringing in help to teach the teachers how to use correct grammar. What in the name of all that is holy is going on?

Ye Gods. Makes you wonder, doesn't it !!!
I can only hope that those who are in need of this help with their grammar are not currently employed as English teachers.



K

Me teacher sez ain’t nuffink wrong wiv the way wot kids talk today it’s like expressing yerself know what I mean innit like!

(Expletives every second or third word are optional)


Mayfield. (grumpy old man!)

I agree !!! I have a 7, 11 and 13 year old and it drives me nuts. Lots of worksheets they bring home have questions spelt wrong etc. My 13 year old usually circles them with red and takes them back!!!-not very popular but satisfying!
Mayfield, you did made me laugh!-but how true.

As long as the teacher is doing their job properly its shouldn't matter how they speak

When i left school people used to say to me that it was me doing Lorraine Chases voice......But i didn't pick up my London accent from my Teachers it was how we all spoke where i lived

Apparently there is a different language used whilst texting - that cannot help either.

Sorry i don't see a problem....a lot of people speak like that now

I don't pronounce a lot of words properly but i can assure you my children who are 13 & 10 know what im talking about & when i ask them to pass me the butta out the fridge they know im asking for butter

Oh yeah and they don't talk like me

Julie - no one is critising accents but grammar and I assume the teachers are being taught written grammar as well as spoken - the two go together really - neither is separate.

Sorry but hasn't what Rita wrote critising the way someone speaks

Quote: and she is shocked when we are out and hear's the way some of the children speak when we are on the bus. Unquote

I see you have changed your post now Chris

i text type all the time, doesnt mean i dont write properly when i have to,

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Julie - I do not know what you are on about. I have not changed my post. Kitten apparently it is some of the youngsters who are affected by text spelling. All I know is luvu!!!!! To my gchildren - who are in their twenties

I correct D lol, he has picked up from somewhere ,
" WHAT was..." he is now so used to me saying automatically " WHICH was ..." that he just corrects it himself before i can open my mouth lol ;)

I txt all the time with the usual abbreviations but the difference is that when it is necessary to write a letter, it is important to try to spell correctly and use the correct grammar so that the intended message is understood by the recipient.
Whilst I am not standing in judgement on some of the messages on these boards it is difficult sometimes to understand the meaning of the message. This results in reading a post several times, trying to imagine if a comma should have been entered. This is why it is important that the teacher knows the exact way to form a sentence. Not every pupil will succeed in good English, just in the same way we can't all be plumbers or rocket scientists but the basics have been dispensed with over the years and now we are seeing the fruits of previous education theories. -JLe

Julie, I think the reference was meant for the type of language they use,I/E the Fword seems quite common now.and others like it.**M**.

OMD's...you mean to tell me that when you guys were growing up no one swore

Well said,Janet.

Not in the manner and way it is now, otherwise a belt around the backside would have happened.Its also said that Children tend to emulate their parents in manner and attitude.**M**.

You can swear grammatically :) I don't think that topic has anything to do with grammar? It's being able to string a sentence together so it can be clearly understood whether written or spoken. I would have hoped teachers would be able to do that adequately before they left training.

well when i was growing up, i never heard either of my parents swear and therefore neither do i. i have a 13 and 15 yr old and am pleased to say, both never swear. yes its true, but maybe thats just the way i was brought up. a child will only use bad language if he hears it and copies and that can probably be said of bad grammar being used.

i am not being snobby or putting down on where anyone comes from, but at school we all have the same english being taught and therefore, there is no excuse for bad grammar.

i take on board today about teachers not using correct grammar, but is this a new thing as i have not heard about it until now?
florence

I would doubt it Rita, I've found those for whom English is a second Language take the time to learn it correctly.

It always astonishes me that in news reports those who live in Europe , Africa etc speak much better English than many of 'our own'.